Beijing has warned Manila not to “stir up trouble” after the Philippine coastguard removed a floating barrier at a disputed reef that was deployed by China to block Filipinos from the traditional fishing ground within their country’s own exclusive economic zone (EEZ).
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What’s the history behind the dispute?
The incident occurred as tensions escalate between China and the Philippines over other areas of the South China Sea, foremost of which are the Spratly Islands.
China claims sovereignty over almost the entire South China Sea while several other countries, including the Philippines, have overlapping claims to parts of it.
Beijing’s claim that it controls almost the entire waterway was nullified by The Hague’s Permanent Court of Arbitration in a 2016 ruling, which called it groundless.
China is such a piece of shit. “Don’t stir up trouble” says the thief invading someone else’s home and claiming several rooms as their own.
It’s the constant bare-faced lies and bullshit that really gets to me. Not sure if it’s actually Chinese culture generally or just the CCP.
It’s just the CCP imo. Most Chinese people I’ve met are just regular folks. Governments rarely represent their people culturally these days, if at all. Pretty odd when you think about it.
Most Chinese I interact with are fiercely nationalistic, much like Americans in that regard.
Let me just interject to point out the difference between Chinese nationals and foreign born Chinese.
No one needs that pointed out because foreign born Chinese aren’t Chinese, they’re wherever they are bornese.
Just like how I’m not Irish despite it my parents being Irish.
That’s ridiculous. That’s like telling a Jewish he’s not Jewish because he wasn’t born in Israel. Chinese is an ETHNICITY as well as a nationality. It would be nice if we had different words for Chinese nationality vs ethnicity in English (locally, we call Chinese nationals mainlanders, but that’s probably confusing given Hong Kong).
Jewish is a fucking religion my man, it has nothing to do with Israel. Chinese is not a religion.
The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים, ISO 259-2: Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation: [jehuˈdim]) are an ethnoreligious group[13] and people whose traditional religion is Judaism[14][15] and whose members are successors, through descent or conversion, of the ancient Hebrews[14][16][17] or Israelites.[18][19][20] Jewish ethnicity, religion and community are highly interrelated,[21][22] as Judaism is an ethnic religion,[23][24] although its observance varies from strict to none.[25][26] The term “Jew” can encompass both individuals born into the community but not actively practicing the religion, as well as converts to Judaism.[27]
As per Wikipedia. Seriously, do you not get the concept of ethnicities?
Agree. It is quite an achievement for a single party to hold sway over the 1.4 billion or whatever the population is. There must be very little appetite for upheaval or instability given even recent history. such sabre rattling and the risk of actual war must be a shaky proposition internally, despite supposed levels of nationalism.
When you have a large population with a strongman government, having little appetite for upheavals is likely impossible. Interacting with the Chinese, I’ve learned that their government is always actively monitoring online spaces to silence dissidents amongst their own people, such that their people are used to codify their languages, and switch whenever a code gets added to the list of words that would trigger the attention of authorities. Some years ago, it was something related to meditation (it was used as a code for their gatherings), and so the Buddhists had to change the word they use to avoid unnecessary trouble with the authorities. These don’t get mentioned very often in Western news sources.
Yeh, the zeitgeist is also highly diverse , nuanced, layered, multi linguistic, regionalised and constantly evolving. Which I see as hopeful and isn’t what the CCP wants. Any Western generalisation especially across headlines is hardly ever accurate, but also plays to the party’s own often defensive (feelings easily hurt) public info strategies.
It’s just their government. The people are pretty okay (I lived in China for 5+ years).
Also, consider their neighbor, Taiwan, which is also “Chinese”. If I remember correctly, the 9 Dash Line was originally an ROC thing and you don’t see Taiwan pissing off every other country around them.
Yeah I know. Sorry for the broad brush and all that. The Chinese government just has this way with words that annoy the shit outta me.
Manila’s response should be a bill for clean up and request that China stop dumping garbage in Philippine territorial waters.
…nullified by The Hague’s Permanent Court of Arbitration in a 2016 ruling, which called it groundless.
Obviously, yeah, otherwise it’d just be more island.
Allowing China to seize the Scarborough Shoal in 2012, without repercussions, was one of the Obama administration’s worst foreign policy blunders. They tried to make up for it later, but the damage was done.
Though it must be said that the root problem is the Philippines’ dysfunction. When China is sailing far from their shores to claim some rocks in your backyard, and you can barely project enough power to push back (with a navy still including WWII era ships, at least until a couple of years ago), and you’re barely doing anything to close the gap (military spending is 1% of GDP a year), well then, what do you expect?
