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They are talking about striking in the national media, a conversation started by an Alexander-Hamilton-moderate-conservative. This is it, it has hit the mainstream media and word is getting out to the people that aren’t necessarily in the 50501, and like organizations, loop.
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u/doyoulikemyladysuitAt2025-04-17 08:42:23 PM| Source
I’ve been seeing this guy for longer than I care to remember. He never called out Bush Jr. for lying us into an endless war for oil, or stood up to racist attacks against Obama.
Proof that they only scream when they are getting stabbed themselves.
On the other hand, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and any one who is against Trump now is welcome.
On the other hand, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Maxim 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.
That doesn’t mean you can’t work with them on a common cause, and maybe even show them the benefits of your way if thinking, but don’t get caught out when they turn on you.
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.
This is beautifuly put
That line diminished their entire point. ‘I’ll ally with fascists when it serves me’ is exactly how we got here.
We got here because there were enough fascist supporters and apathetic nonparticipants to defeat the equity and equality supporters in an election.
We didn’t get here because people crossed the aisle to the fascist side.
Proof that they only scream when they are getting stabbed themselves.
If folks can somehow retain one and only one thing if we get through all this without civil war:
R wants power, and they want to hurt anyone who doesn’t fit a fairly narrow demographic. That’s all they have ever wanted, and every policy or position out of R in the past many years is all the proof you need.
When R gets power they start breaking shit and hurting people. It’s the only outcome of modern conservatism. And when they say “enough is enough” it’s ONLY because the policies they supported and cheered for finally start to blow back on them.
IF we make it through this folks, DO NOT FORGET. Don’t vote R ever again, not for the lowliest local position, not for the highest position. Not for any position. I’m in my 50s and I’m telling you all that hate and control over those not like them are the only things from Republican mouths in as long as I’ve been old enough to pay attention. How polite they are about it has waxed and waned, but the direction they push for has always been the same.
(and don’t come at me with some shitty whataboutism - D sucks in their own way as a group, but that way is not this way)
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I’m telling you all that hate and control over those not like them are the only things from Republican mouths in as long as I’ve been old enough to pay attention. How polite they are about it has waxed and waned, but the direction they push for has always been the same.
This is so true that they tried to convince people it wasn’t true with a targeted rebranding in the 90s. I don’t think anyone bought it even then. Compassionate Conservatism
A few years ago I put my position on the Republican party into a relatively pithy saying it’s really easy to remember.
" No Republicans. No excuses. No exceptions."
Feel free to share and steal without attribution.
No Republicans. No excuses. No exceptions.
I fucking love it.
he did call out the lies about the Iraq war, he just placed the blame on Rumsfeld and Cheney
but he has called it a mistake many times
I think Brooks is a complicated figure but one to pay attention to, even if you don’t like his conservative stance
he did call out the lies about the Iraq war, he just placed the blame on Rumsfeld and Cheney
Much, much, MUCH TOO LATE. Everyone with a functioning bullshit meter knew the whole time it was all evil bullshit ginned up by Gee Dubz to attack Iraq for reasons only he really knows because no one has ever been able to definitively state why.
Brooks was a feckless cheerleader and he absolutely made his shit bed. Fuck that guy. Oh he’s upset the republicans have destroyed the country? Fuck that guy. What a piece of shit.
Because Saddam expressed a desire to have his daddy assassinated.
Yeah but he came up with that when his WMD bullshit was starting to stink from being dead for so long.
Watch out for trolls. Knocking down anti Trmp allies with a purity test is an old trick that supports MAGA.
those people who only see black and white are just as bad as MAGA, no doubt about it
Hindsight is 20/20
it is a good thing to give someone a way out, even Sun Tzu suggested it
it lets people compromise, and that is what made america great
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This is the problem we have to overcome.
Look at the old time abolitionists. People today try to paint them all as morally driven saints. The fact is that a lot of the opposition to slavery came from Northern capitalists who were mad they couldn’t have slaves in their factories. Other opponents were tradesmen who couldn’t compete with the slaveowners who rented out their slave carpenters and blacksmiths.
Pragmatism gets shit done.
This article feels a little disingenuous and seems written by someone who has only heard their friend complain about David Brooks. In his book “The Second Mountain,” Brooks goes into his mea culpa moments. He has on more than a few occasions admitted his errors. I would share citations, but it was a library loan and it’s on hold.
Those of us who protest against power, aren’t we looking for exactly the kind of change of hearts and minds such that Brooks is showing?
He is an honest person, but has had a lifetime of being honestly wrong about almost everything. Even with the mea culpas, he still apportions the blame for our current situation completely inappropriately. That said, I agree we are not in a position to turn away imperfect allies and I applaud him for trying to do something with whatever miniscule influence he retains.
When people say “you used to be able to have honest debate with the other side,” David is the only one who in my lifetime that may have been true for.
When people say “you used to be able to have honest debate with the other side,” David is the only one who in my lifetime that may have been true for.
Well, no, because honest debate recognizes truth and Brooks has fought The Obvious Truth for decades so he can perch in his comfy conservative cheerleader costume.
His bullshit has been nasty for decades and PBS happily smeared him all over their news broadcasts for just as long.
I won’t have any part of either now, because of that. Hooray he’s vaguely cognizant that Shit Do Be Fucked but holy god man, what a complete fool.
If that is all true and it’s a genuine change of heart, I would hug him and welcome as a friend. I hope it is. But it’s so easy to play pretend, and the dangers are very real.
He’s one of the very few conservatives I feel respect for. I may not agree with his takes but believe that he is thoughtful, honest, and filled with integrity. His opinions are reasoned and rational. Wish he were a progressive, we’d think of him like Bernie.
Where was he the last 45 years? Making this happen.
Will he be at these protests?
I agree that he’s been an enabler, but you know what they say : the convert is more zealous than the person who grew up in the church.
Tell me he won’t mean-revert the second the crisis is over.
Does it matter then? I think I will not care what he does later, unless he wiggles into real power
thats why magats tend to be younger, and they are even more alt-right than thier conservative ancestors.
This is why the Right hates education.
It was Right wing ideology that destroyed the middle class. Nixon tripled down on LBJ’s Vietnam War. Then Reagan came in and moved as much manufacturing as he could overseas, creating the Rust Belt. The Bush family kept the trend going, and now Trump is doubling the debt every year.
But to the alt-right Oliver North was a hero!
He’s no convert. He’s a conservative commentator. i.e. a grifter, a fool.
And…?
If he helps take Trump down, it means he helped take Trump down. Focus on the task at hand.
Yeah and good for him, but he’s not getting a cookie. So he can get in the back with the rest of us and chant or whatever his thing is, but you know as soon as he gets his wish to get rid of trump he’ll be right back to propping up the next trump for the same morally bereft intellectually dishonest reasons.
Look at history. France thought it was to their advantage to support the American colonies against England; then the French found it to their advantage to go against the Americans. Lee and Grant both fought on the same side in the Mexican War.
Okay, but there’s no intellectual debate in those instances. The king said attack (or the equivalent thereof) and the soldiers did their jobs.
In Brooks’ case he willingly ignored all the evidence of his eyes and ears, and the pleas of whoever he was undermining to support war criminals, racists, and bigots. For decades. And now, the final glorious result of all his work turns out to not be to his liking? Great. Here’s a shovel, David. You suck. Now get to digging. And no, we’re not renewing your column next year.
All I’m saying is this; last year people were screaming that they couldn’t vote for Harris because Dick Cheney endorsed her. Let’s play nice when anyone comes over. We can deal with them after we have a super majority and the White House.
I’ve never heard that line before but it’s great
What is this goddamned clownworld timeline we live in where David fucking Brooks is calling for a mass revolt, a literal insurrection, against the pinnacle, ultimate form of what he and his ilk have advocated for and done their level best to make a reality for longer than I’ve been alive?
I mean… at this point, fuck it, this is good news, we are gonna need as many bodies in the streets and feet on the ground, from as many backgrounds and persuasions of all kinds to have any chance at all of stopping this madness…
But Jesus Christ if this isn’t the most ‘Dog finally catches car and is disappointed’ fucking thing.
Just rejoice that you have cons pushing for it. Don’t look your gift horse in the mouth and complain its teeth aren’t perfect.
Oh I agree, I just cant help but to be stunned and bewildered.
“Will someone please clean up this mess I made?”
Fuck you, David.
Anyone calling for revolution/revolt in America is a good guy right now. -Canada
We don’t want things to go “back to normal”. We want REVENGE. Heads must roll.
I want får more revenge than you can possibly imagine.
But the problem isn’t David Brooks, it’s the infinitely racist south who love fascists as long as it means they can brutalize anyone brown or otherwise different without consequence.
Before the party switch the Republicans were just greedy, now their greed pales in comparison to their lust for cruelty. That’s the southern way.
Sherman needed to keep going, for another decade or two.
Given that the midwest, southwest and mid-atlantic also voted majority trump that seems like an odd focus, but okay.
I lived in the Midwest too.
The Midwest voted to be left alone, especially for culture war issues.
The southwest voted to get rid of mexicans.
The Mid-Atlantic voted for culture war issues mostly.
The south voted to hurt people, just like they have in literally every election for 200 years. This is literally the region that fought a war for slavery, lost, and kept it anyway under a different name for 100 years, there ain’t no shame in their game.
Look at the margins, the south voted trump by a crazy landslide.
The small town in the Midwest I lived in was beautiful in the 1980s, then in the 90s nafta kicked in and we were infested by southerners moving north for jobs, bringing their drugs and crime with them.
They’re a plague, and they’re spreading.
Again that’s just a weird focus since the ‘hurt people’ thing applies to your other examples, but - fair enough. It’s not a contest.
Midwest is ABSOLUTELY not about hate.
They just want to be left the fuck alone.
Southwest wants them gone.
The south wants Jim crow back, where they can beat, torture and kill brown people with impunity.
Not that they can’t do that now, law enforcement sure won’t look closely.
Where do you think those ideals came from? The US wasn’t as big back then…
Well this might be good. In order to achieve regime change and new elections with the protests, you’ll need the military on your side. You can never overthrow the government otherwise. So conservative people like this can help.
If we achieve new elections then great, it seems like there are pro-constitution conservatives in his basket, but I would be careful about installing a new regime with their help because it isn’t always a better regime.
You can’t install any new regime without at least the military ignoring a revolution. And then the current elite stays in power.
The difference between a shithead like this, and any and all sane people, is that sane people could see this unnecessary shitstorm approaching from afar, while these stunted minds only seem to be able to see things only after things smack then in the face.
Fuck him, all his ilk and the greedy, myopic, ignorant goddamned boat they rode one.In this case, you’re quite obviously “barking under the wrong tree”. Some people who call themselves conservative or moderate are quite capable of predicting what may happen.
Regarding the 2016 election, Brooks spoke in support of Hillary Clinton, applauding her ability to be “competent” and “normal” in comparison to her Republican counterpart, Donald Trump.[67][68] In addition, Brooks noted that he believed Clinton would eventually be victorious in the election, as he foresaw that the general American public would become “sick of” Trump.[67][68]
On the August 9, 2019, episode of the PBS NewsHour, Brooks suggested Trump may be a sociopath.
Not a secret, lifted from his Wikipedia page.
I would always advise checking a person’s background before saying things about them.
To he fair to Brooks (which I hate to do, since he is a shithead), he was very aware of the dangers of Trump and endorsed Hillary, Biden, and Kamala in the last three elections. He has even said that he was wrong about Bernie, and now acknowledges that his kind of economic populism is the only thing that could have stopped Trump’s fascist populism. That being said, he’s spent the last three decades promoting the kind of Regan-style neoliberalism and Bush-style imperialism that got us into this mess, so fuck him.
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We will need less insane conservatives on our side to correct this big orange mistake, so let’s not fuck him for the moment.
While I agree, you’re assuming the opportunity to fuck him won’t pass once moment is over and he won’t be enshrined as “one of the good ones” and allowed to continue making big, colorful mistakes so long as they aren’t orange ones.
When we need to unite against a literal fascist, I’ll gladly stand with conservatives with whom I have serious policy disagreements. Telling them to fuck off will just strengthen Trump’s hold.
Once we’ve finished the fight against the MAGA cult, we can debate each other about policy without worrying about anyone getting disappeared.
REVOLUTION TIME FOLKS LETS GOOOOOO
Even a broken cunt is right twice a day.
There are demonstrations this Saturday, David. Hope we see you there.
He finally pulls his head out of the sand after the global economy starts to reroute itself to bypass the US?
Brooks has never given a damn about abuse of power or fascist rule. He’s just arguing to defend the status quo. He has the moral backbone of a fruit fly.
A more onion-y title would be something like “Conservative commentator quotes Marx, calls for mass protests and strikes”.
The actual title is more just !ironicorsurprisingnews than !nottheonion material imo
Edit: You’ve editorialized the title?
Posts must be:
- Links to news stories from…
- …credible sources, with…
- …their original headlines, that…
- …would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”
Unless it was changed post-publication, the original is
Conservative NYT Columnist David Brooks Calls for ‘National Civic Uprising’ to Defeat Trumpism – Complete With ‘Mass Rallies, Strikes’
Imo that’s actually more onion-y than the changed title
Brooks is probably fairly wealthy. He should put his money where his mouth and start filling some strike funds.
Was he one of those Brooks brothers from the riot?
no, hes the writer that has made a name by being the conservative writer for liberal publications
Brooks Brothers Riot refers to thier preferred clothing company, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was related
