• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    As long as it’s made mandatory to cover with insurance so it’s available to everyone. The last thing we need is an immortal ruling class.

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      Don’t worry, going by past history this will be available to any and…uhh, [checks notes] oh, uh-oh.

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        Oh at this point it seems like we’re treating dystopian science fiction as a guidebook instead of a warning.

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            Hold on, what color Soylent are we talking about? Is it the delicious, definitely only plants, green flavor?

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          Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech

          Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus

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      Let the death of Saburo Arasaka be a lesson to us all: even 150+ year old bastards can get choked the fuck out

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        … and reduce emissions by wasting the rest. But due to negative selection leading into that upper class they won’t be able to manage the planet further despite thinking that they can and will die of hunger eventually.

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        If they’re functional, and we get serious about space or birth control, then no it’s not a problem. But that is another path we can take to really juice the dystopia.

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          It will take a very long time indeed before we can reach another habitable planet enough to alleviate an exponentially growing population, and forced birth control will be unpopular, not to mention probably employed as eugenics by those in power against those who aren’t.

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            There’s always orbital habitats. They ramp up a lot quicker than even a Mars colony.

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                Eh, it would be worth it with the right recreational activities up there and knowing we weren’t setting up altered carbon.

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                  You’d have zero control over your existence. Someone else would own that station and you’d exist entirely at their whim. They would decide if you get food, air, water, shelter. No real access to nature. I’d rather die.

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    Good lord, just let people DIE. Imagine what a rotten place this would be if people with outdated mindsets continued to control the world decades or even centuries after their expiration dates. People were already angry about 80 year old presidential candidates… what happens when they’re 120, or 150?

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        I doubt it. They will just dump shit further away. If their solution default is to make things “somebody else’s problem” there’s no reason to believe they will stop thinking that way.

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          That might be their outlook on “local” pollution for a while, but you don’t think going from 20 years left to centuries to live might affect their opinions on global climate change?

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            Not really. Many of them are already heavily invested in life extension tech (not that I think it will work, but it means they’re optimistic). I think their general worldview is that technology will fix it, at least for them.

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        They can live forever but have to trade their fortune for it permanently

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    There are two reasons he believes the neocortex could be replaced, albeit only slowly. The first is evidence from rare cases of benign brain tumors, like a man described in the medical literature who developed a growth the size of an orange. Yet because it grew very slowly, the man’s brain was able to adjust, shifting memories elsewhere, and his behavior and speech never seemed to change—even when the tumor was removed.

    That’s proof, Hébert thinks, that replacing the neocortex little by little could be achieved “without losing the information encoded in it” such as a person’s self-identity.

    The second source of hope, he says, is experiments showing that fetal-stage cells can survive, and even function, when transplanted into the brains of adults. For instance, medical tests underway are showing that young neurons can integrate into the brains of people who have epilepsy and stop their seizures.

    “It was these two things together—the plastic nature of brains and the ability to add new tissue—that, to me, were like, ‘Ah, now there has got to be a way,’” says Hébert.

    Very interesting. I’ve also seen research suggesting that the application of stem cells to damaged neural tissue within the spinal cord could repair it, so the idea that you could use a similar approach to actual brain health isn’t such a big leap. But still, wow. I wonder how long it would take for the immature cells to develop into “adult mode” that’s fully integrated into the patients cortex. In order to replace the entire brain, you’d have to do it in like, 8 parts, with years of recovery time in between each surgery. Also there would exist the potential for the new cells to develop into like, a second, smaller brain, if the connections sour or if the new material isn’t stimulated the “right” way.

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      a man described in the medical literature who developed a growth the size of an orange. Yet because it grew very slowly, the man’s brain was able to adjust, shifting memories elsewhere, and his behavior and speech never seemed to change—even when the tumor was removed.

      Wow, that’s wild.

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    FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH IT DISGUSTED ME

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    The brain renewal concept could have applications such as treating stroke victims

    If this can restore functions to stroke victims again, it’s absolutely amazing.
    If this is vastly successful which remains to be seen, there might be a path format to the longevity part of the idea.

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    I am not renting my corporeal existence from a megacorporation. There is no way this is ever affordable to the masses without some pretty huge caveats

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    President Joe Biden created ARPA-H in 2022, as an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, to pursue what he called  “bold, urgent innovation”

    I did not see Biden creating a cloning and immortality medical research arm of the government but I guess it’s proof he already knew he was getting old before the debate and no wonder Trump wants back in the white house.

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    No. Absolutely not. Whenever anyone says, “wouldn’t it be great to live forever” remember that means people like trump and Musk are with us forever. Unless people take things into their own hands, but that’s another issue.

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      means people like trump and Musk are with us forever.

      But that would also mean their polar opposites would also be with us forever, the objectively best of us

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      Maybe the procedure would fix whatever’s wrong with their brains. Like, maybe Trump would slowly regain the ability to form complete sentences. I’m imagining a Flowers for Algernon situation where he wakes up one day, reads his own Wikipedia page, and is briefly ashamed before the non-neural parts of his body crap out.

    • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      people like trump and Musk are with us forever.

      Hey, we only have to get lucky once. They need to keep being lucky every time.