Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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          I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:

          Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

          I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.

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            I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though

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              As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?

              Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?

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                Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.

                If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.

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                  Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.

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              Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:

              What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???

              I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.

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              Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.

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                Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.

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                  Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  He deserves much worse.

                  Agreed.

                  Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.

                  Hard disagree.

                  You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.

                  If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.

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      While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.

      Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.

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        I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.

        I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.

        No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.

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          Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.

          He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.

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      the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.

      much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.

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      I heard recently it’s incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him

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    It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.

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      I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.

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        I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.

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        He won’t ever get cancer or get sick or catch a disease. He will be “poisoned by the radical left” and Maggots will say “they’ve gone too far” and calls to ban the party from the shithole MAGAs will come out along the words “treason” being thrown out there.

        If he goes the fuck away from old age (which is more likely based on how reality works) he will be “assassinated.”

        No matter how his end will be, there will be calls to prosecute and execute “traitors responsible.” If he does become president for life the “traitor” will be coincidentally the candidate on the opposing party. That’s if by that point if we even have elections a anymore. He could be geriatric in a fucking wheelchair and they will say this mark my words.

        Because they know after trump they will be utterly fucked to legally be elected back to power. (At least I hope)

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      Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.

      It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.

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        It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.

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          Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.

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            Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”

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        its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer

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          Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.

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        What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?

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      Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.

      Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.

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      With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.

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    Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.

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        Maybe it is downvoted because those weapons were funded long before Joe Biden was the leader?

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          But that’s factually incorrect. Billions of dollars of new US military aid to Israel, during the genocide, were okayed by the Biden admin. This is not controversial, this is not classified, this is public knowledge that made headlines in all major news outlets at the time.

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          The Leahy law requires that those weapons be withheld. But the party of letting bullshit procedure get in the way of doing the right thing doesn’t let actual law get in the way of doing the wrong thing.

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      That would have been a bummer, wouldn’t it? Joe Biden should have been ashamed of himself if he had allowed such a thing to happen under his leadership. Thank God he didn’t.

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        Oh weird, so it wasn’t a constant stream of weapons provided with stamped approval by the admin? It wasn’t that the only time they threatened to stop it was only a very specific type of heavy bomb, not any other munitions? It wasn’t the Biden admin who initially rejected the terms ceasefire until deep into the conflict? It wasn’t the Biden admins ceasefire plans that were accepted and abandoned by Trump, proving that if they had provided full throated support of those plans it could have very reasonably happened a year sooner?

        Best thing you can say about this fuck was that he was the white guy they used to get Obama elected, cause they figured no one would vote for him unless he had a token cracker.

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          Man, the criticisms are valid, and I’ll even add to them because his pride in not stepping down sooner doomed what shreds of american democracy were left. That said, the best and largest climate bill ever passed by the US govt happened under him. Unions were bolstered and grew under him (not the train workers tho lol) and if nothing else, his victory let me not think about the fat orange cow for ten minutes. In so many ways, I pity and even kinda miss that sad sleepy bastard-- however much he floundered in almost every way. As a bonus his dogs hated government agents as much as I do, and got to bite them with impunity.

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            Totally fair, despite the vitriol and glibness of my response. But man, as you mentioned the railroad was a big fuck up. Speaking of shitty situations for Palestinians… East Palestine Ohio happened like 2 months after he made the rail workers go back to work, and it was one of the exact problems they were striking for. That’s directly on his hands.

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          That’s a fair point, he was not compos mentis during the second half of his presidency. But then, suppose someone in the more advanced stages of Alzheimer’s gets behind the wheel and runs over and kills a child. Are they morally culpable? I think the answer is non-obvious, and at any rate subjective.

          For me personally, a necessary (but not sufficient) precondition is that the driver currently remembers what they did. This also implies that as time progresses, they lose culpability, as in time they will forget about it. It’s hard to judge whether Biden satisfies this. I mean, in his worst moments (like the debate, and his recent appearance on the View) it’s so obvious that he doesn’t understand what’s going on that I have a hard time believing he fully understands what’s happening in the middle east. This, to me, would imply that he’s not culpable for the genocide by virtue of simply not knowing it’s happening in the first place.

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      If he allowed terrorists to build command centres in those hospitals, and dig tunnels underneath, then perhaps they would have been bombed to the ground…

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        As a reminder, the claim that Hamas built a command center under Shifa Hospital comes solely from the IDF. They have rejected offers to have an international delegation of journalists freely roam the area to verify the claim.

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        As another user pointed out, there’s no basis for those claims other than IDF press releases, which is literally the party that’s doing the bombing. Not crazy reliable. But let’s say they’re not lying, or wrong. Let’s say that enemy combatants are holed up underneath all schools, all hospitals, all churches and mosques, and 90% of residential buildings in Gaza (writing it out like this makes it sound really fucking stupid and unbelievable, but let’s entertain the thought anyway).

        In the case that medical facilities are used in acts harmful to you, they become legitimate military targets under international humanitarian law. However, when you do bomb such facilities you have a number of responsibilities, including preparing a contingency plan and getting full medical service (such as cancer wards, maternity wards, and so on) up and running as soon as possible. If you don’t, you’re right back in war crime territory. And Israel hasn’t.

        But aside from legal stuff, just ask yourself on a moral level if you’re okay with this. If your mother is taken hostage in a bank robbery, would you be okay with the police dealing with this situation by blowing up the entire building? I personally wouldn’t, but I guess it’s conceivable that you would respond by saying “the robber did the hostage taking, the cops had no other choice, and the only one to blame for my mother’s death is the robber”.

        All of this is all hypothetical of course because there’s actually no reason to believe that all hospitals, schools, places of worship, residential buildings, and refugee camps are all valid military targets. Because what moron would believe such a thing based entirely on what the party doing the bombing is saying?

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          I’m just pointing out how ridiculous the comparison is to the USA. Which, to my knowledge, is not a huge refugee camp riddled with terrorists.

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            Yeah, and you’re basing this on info from the IDF, which I and others point out is hardly an impartial observer. There are impartial third party observers (Amnesty, WHO, Red Cross, ICC, ICJ, Unicef, etc.) and they all disagree with you. Try applying a even a smidge of critical thinking.

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    Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)

    • If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.

    • With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.

    • Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.

    • Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.

    • After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.

    • Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.

    • If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.

    • As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.

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    Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).

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    With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?

    I’m a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup

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      It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.

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        If that’s the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.

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        This was exactly my first thought.

        And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.

        He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC

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          Yeah if he was incapacitated because of drugs he should have let Kamala take over.

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            I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.

            Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn’t make that promise.

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              Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.

              Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.

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      cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.

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    Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.

    But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.

    He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.

    I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.

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        if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.

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            you’re joking, but there are people like Peter Thiel who throw money into transhumanist nonsense specifically because he thinks he’ll live forever thanks to that. cryonics, buckets of supplements, “enhanced games” as a non-FDA testing ground for immortality elixir for new emperor, and a couple of other things that i don’t remember right now, all because he’s so scared of dying

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          We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.

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            We’ve also been talking about curing it for years and it hasn’t happened, so maybe live your life like you’re dying and be pleasantly surprised if we cure it.

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.

      Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.

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      If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.

      Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.

      He will be missed.

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      It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so…

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.

      That’s no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.

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      But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.

      There are already conspiracy theories going around that he kept his medical issues (dementia, cancer, etc) a closely guarded secret whilst running for re-election.

      As for why I think Biden wanted to run for a second term, my guess is that his plan was to stand down and effectively proxy the United States’ first female leader in that way. Harris would have otherwise been eviscerated in the primaries.

      He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.

      Dude, with the way Trump is handling things, the 2026 midterms and 2028 presidential elections are going to be about as Fair and Balanced™ as a Fox News broadcast.

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      Would have changed nothing.

      The left would have cried that whoever wasn’t X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.

      The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.

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        When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much

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          When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can’t say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?

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            Liberals need to learn that voting for do-nothing-democrats lead to worsening conditions for the country’s poor which strengthens the base for fascist support.

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            Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.

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        The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.

        For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.

        I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards

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          The last time I voted and did what the liberal told me to do. I elected a president who committed genocide. This whole back and forth with this is just very frustrating because if you really break it all down how the United States is set up, how our electoral processes work, I mean the power of the executive branch nowadays we’re not really a democracy. Corporations have captured our government. There’s this lady who is a exCIA analyst and she has a book called How Civil War Start and How to Stop Them. Her name is Barbara Walters. She refers to the United States as not a democracy. She is more successful and smarter than me and you.

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            Joe didn’t commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn’t a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.

            The local level was where we could’ve built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn’t have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.

            The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn’t know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they’re losing more power than they realize, as now America won’t be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it’s capitalism that’s the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you’ll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can’t reach the same level.

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        this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.

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        Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.

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        The American public is pretty stupid. I’ll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it’s the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It’s a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.

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    This guy wanted another term this time last year.

    [Edit] Oh, and some of you all thought it was a good idea. Lol.

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      You can’t really predict stage 4 cancer in your life plans, but it was clear to anyone paying attention that he was not fit for the office anymore.

      Still would have voted his ticket over a fascist megalomaniac.

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      Bro.

      A chihuahua on crystal meth would do a better job than Trump.

      A coma patient who doesn’t wake up would do a better job than Trump.

      I would say that The Devil would do a better job than Trump, but that’s kind of like trying to divide by zero.

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        I’m satanic and so I’ve got it on good authority that he’d do a damn fine job. Plus free cover to his club, full nudity is permitted, full public sex is encouraged. Main talking points are all that other stuff like saving humanity, body autonomy, protection for marginalized people… and the club access and sex…

        Does Trump’s plan include any of this? I rest my case. :P

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          Okay I’m interest in the club sex and nudity stuff. But don’t know its all the other stuff that I worry about.

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      Did he, or did his team take advantage of a doddering, senile old man because they wanted to keep their cushy jobs?

      With the release of his interviews over having classified materials it’s clear to me that he wasn’t making his own decisions and if he thought he was still competent and capable that’s because the people around him were lying to him and telling he was. He was clearly at a point where he could no longer accurately assess those kind of things about himself, and was thus relying on outside input. When that outside input is enabling the idea that he is competent, that’s not the fault of a man on the edge of senility.

      Leave Brittany Biden alone, especially now that he is likely to die from a horrific disease. Blame this on the correct parties, those around him enabling the idea that he needed to run again, which were his aides who didn’t want to lose their cushy positions.

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        Translation:

        Did his team try use America’s racism and sexism to protect America from the consequences of its rampant racism and sexism?

        I’m fine with that, the other side doesn’t mind cheating.

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      No he just wanted to beat 45, he wanted his VP to be president, cause she was a carbon copy establishment Dem that would protect the status quo, why do you think she didnt change any major platform positions when she took over? Cause it was already her campaign.

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      I don’t know about you, but I wanted him to stop working when he was 74 and enjoy the rest of his life with his family like people should be allowed to do much younger than that, not start working again at 78.

      I have absolutely no guilt over what happened at the tail end of his presidency, I tried to keep him from being in that position at all.

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      Everyone except big money donors wanted him to retire literal decades ago…

      No one forced him to keep going, we had to fight him to stop well past it was time.

      Like, you don’t think Joe Biden first and last “primary” being 40 years apart isnt a good thing?

      Someone that wasn’t born till five years after his first run could have ran against him in his last.

      The guy won once.