• J'Pol @lemmy.sdf.org
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    I heard a piece on Here And Now today about a group of single issue voters in Dearborn that is actively working to disrupt and damage the Harris campaign. They are trying to get dems to vote for Stein.

    • Fish [Indiana]@midwest.social
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      It seems like they’re using multiple strategies in an effort to put pressure on the Dems. Some are saying that they are going to vote for Trump even though they are also anti-Trump. Their logic is that Kamala is actively contributing to a genocide, whereas Trump is not.

      I doubt there is anything they can do to actually make Democrat politicians feel pressure, but I do agree with their sentiments. I’m not voting for some who is pro-genocide. Trump is both pro-genocide and fascist. I’m also not going to vote for a 3rd party candidate because most 3rd parties focus on the presidential race more than they focus on grassroots efforts.

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        Voting is a strategic choice, not an endorsement. You should vote for the candidate who you would rather have in office.

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        Their logic is that Kamala is actively contributing to a genocide, whereas Trump is not.

        This is literally the most braindead political take I’ve ever heard, and that’s saying a lot

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          It’s a classic “technically true, but not particularly useful” information tidbit. Harris is in office, Trump isn’t.

          Of course, you could argue that Vance - as a powerful member of the US Senate - is participating in the genocide while Walz - a governor of a midwestern state with no meaningful role in foreign policy - isn’t. Equally true, but meaningless.

          The problem Harris has isn’t that Trump gets innocence-by-default by being out of office for four years. Its that she’s doggedly clinging to the “both sides” framing of the Israeli genocide and scaring off Arab-American voters as a consequence. It doesn’t matter whether Harris is better or worse than Trump when the baseline of US policy is the mass slaughter of your friends and family.

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            The problem that Harris has is the mountains of propaganda working against her.

            Not saying she’s perfect, but in a practical sense the spin matters FAR more than the facts.

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          I agree that it’s a bad take. But at this point I think that they’re desperate, trying anything they can to get Kamala to change course. It’s an urgent issue that can be solved easily: just stop supplying weapons and aid to Israel. Four years from now, most Palestinians living in Palestine will already be dead.