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        Another thing that has never been a problem in the decade and a half that I’ve had a magic mouse. Is it dead? Plug it in for 15 minutes and go get some coffee and maybe have a pee. Plug it in when you’re done at the end of the day, and you’ll be golden for a month.

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      I’m not an apple hater, I have a Mac mini. However, our power goes out fairly regularly in the winter, and it’ll get old having to get the thing out of the back of my desk at start it again pretty bloody quickly, it’s an obviously daft place to put it.

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          That’s the most useful thing anyone’s said so far, thanks. My current mini is hard enough to get at, as it’s under the back of the desk, so I’ve used this, as even though the power button is in a vaguely accessible place, there computer isn’t. Why would I want it taking up room on the top that could be used for synths I can’t play, and coffee I haven’t drunk?!

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          Is the keyboard not bluetooth anymore? The computer would have to be on to connect to a bluetooth device. If they still had wired keyboards on the other hand…

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            You can connect the keyboard with the USB-C cable. That’s how you charge it anyway.

            Although, I know everyone here absolutely hates the idea of ever plugging in an apple device to charge it. Just look at the conniption fit everyone throws over their mice.

            Of course, people who don’t care for it could simply not buy it, but then nobody would ever have anything to make a comment about. This whole community is 99% rage, posting about things that could not possibly matter less.

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          Ah, if I used a Mac keyboard then I’d probably have known that. I generally don’t really like Mac peripherals, I’ve got a full size mechanical keyboard and a thumb wheel mouse. I get that it’s not an insurmountable problem, but there’s only one face out of the six that you can absolutely guarantee isn’t going to be immediately accessible, so why put the only button on the whole machine on that face, as opposed to next to all the I/Os?

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            This is already been explained to you. Asking the same question more than once expecting a different answer doesn’t seem sensible.

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          Can you also use that button for hard reboots? Because I use the power button for that with some regularity.

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            Then it sounds like your problem isn’t where the button is, it’s that you have to keep pressing it for hard reboot. Sounds like you have a software issue that needs resolving.

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              Oh just solve all the software problems in the world so this need never arises. I’ll get right on that.

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                Once again, it not Apple’s fault that your computer keeps freezing.

                If you put a fraction of the effort into fixing it that you do into whining about things that are your own fault, you’ve had it solved already.

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        Set your energy saver preferences in System Settings to automatically restart the computer after a power failure.

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        Do you not already have to reach behind your current Mini to turn it on in the instance the power goes out?

        Now instead of reaching around, you just would have to reach to basically the same area and press a button underneath. Unless you have a bunch of junk on top of the computer, it’s going to take the same amount of effort.

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          It looks like the foot/base bit isn’t tall enough to get a finger to the button without lifting the thing up. That seems daft to me. You’re having to move the whole unit about to push a button

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          Mine is rotated sideways so the button is on the corner nearest me. I care more about good access to the cables than I care about the ooh aesthetics of looking at the smooth front. Bottom of the fucking device is not what I call good access.

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            You could just use the new one upside down, and mash that unobstructed power button to your heart’s content. You’ll have the same great access to the ports too!

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              Unfortunately that screws up the air flow for heat dissipation, which is an integral part of the case design. Otherwise I’d totally just do that.

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                  Apple thinks that loud fans are a bad user experience, and I can’t fault them on that. So they design around convection as much as possible: hot air rises and leaves the case, cool air enters from below and the case geometry and plastics guide it to the areas that need it most, just by their static shape. That carefully crafted path for the air to follow is designed around the computer being right side up and it doesn’t work the same if the thing is inverted.

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      I actually have to press this all the time when my mini freezes or there has been a power failure. My mini has quite a few cables plugged into it and a stack of drives on top. So yeah lifting it up to press a button is decidedly inconvenient and inelegant. It’s not killing anyone’s babies but we’re talking about product design here. Inconvenient and inelegant are 100% fair game.

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        As I said, in another comment, you should focus on what is causing the freezing, not where a button is.

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              Maybe you should cry about getting rude to a total stranger over such a trivial thing, because this makes you an asshole, and no one wants to be an asshole.

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                You the one throwing tantrums because of a button.

                And you’re hallucinating that I’m unreasonable for pointing out that it’s your problem— that’s some strong delusion you got there, crazy.

                Keep whining and crying for another day or two. I’m sure Tim Cook himself will come wipe your tears away while completely redesigning the computer just for crybabies like you.

                lol

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      It’s not, we solved this issue before the invention of the computer, just use a capacitive touch sensor, you can literally make any power button completely invisible, this is malicious design.

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        They did that on the old G4 cube, it illuminated when it was powered on to show where the capacitive power “button” was, but it was basically invisible when the device was powered off.

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      I’ve seen a decent number of people mention that current placement is too easy to accidentally hit while plugging something in. I’ve also experienced that.

      However, if you think Apple is ever going to get over form over function, you’re very mistaken. It’s literally their entire identity.

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      It’s a subtle hint that you don’t have to power off your computer between uses. Most modern computers go into an ultra low power mode when not in use.

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      Functionally it’s harder to accidentally press on the bottom.

      Although it’s also now harder to intentionally press too. It looks like a finger can fit under there, otherwise you’ll be flipping it over to power on.

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    Finally, a power button my stupid cats can’t sit on and turn the computer off with.

    Laptop? Oh yeah, they’ll turn that off. Gaming desktop? Yep, but only if it’s annoying for them to have done so. Home server? Yes, but only because they know that’s the most annoying thing to power cycle.

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    I had a mini sitting there for about a year before someone pointed out it was upside down on my desk. I thought the side that says “Mac mini” was supposed to be facing up? But no, apparently it’s the Apple logo side. With the power button on the model name side, I think that could fuel a nice, juicy OCD argument with my coworker?

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    I actually kinda like that. The amount of times I’ve accidently shut down my laptop through the dock (very similar shape as the mac mini) just (un)plugging a cable and bumping the power button is ridiculous

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    I’m gonna guess the hard drive and RAM are still not upgradeable by us?