You’re old, straight, white and rich, motherfucker – YOU’RE going to be “ok.” Everyone else is fucked.

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    And this is exactly what’s wrong with the Democrats, and why Biden never should’ve run. They’re too comfortable in their big houses with all their money and privilege. They have no fucking idea what it’s like for most Americans, and clearly they don’t care because they’ve never had to. There is no party in the US to fight for regular people, so they didn’t vote.

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    Says the neoliberal shitbag who appointed a conservative traitor to NOT prosecute Trump. The same shitbag who should NOT have run in the first fucking place. And now the DNC is going to tack even further right.

    Historically, fascism is only defeated through violence, but in this case, that violence needs to happen inside our own house. The DNC needs to purge itself of neoliberals and conservatives just in case there’s another shot at salvaging democracy. DNC neoliberals are the deadly threat closest to us.

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    Does Biden seriously think Trrump will let him retire in peace? He needs to flee the country before Trump is sworn in or he and his family will be arrested. There’s no way Trump will let go the man who beat him, the man who made him look like a fool, the man who was going to have him arrested during his presidency.

    Even Taylor Swift might be facing issues.

    Trump cannot commit crimes as a president. There’s no such thing as murder for him anymore.

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    What a fucking tool.

    Good job, Biden. You care so much about your legacy? Guess what: your legacy is now “one of the hubristic egotistical dipshits that made so many unforced errors that you basically opened the fucking door for the fascists to take over”. You’ll be remembered alongside the likes of Neville Chamberlain and Paul von Hindenburg. You absolute fucking chode. You lost the fucking republic.

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    Right, for him when Trump or Harris wins, the election is fair and transparent.

    I’m sorry for the conspiracy tone, but they do keep playing you for fools.

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    “I know people are still hurting, but things are changing rapidly. Together we’ve changed America for the better. Now we have 74 days to finish the term, our term. Let’s make every day count.”

    Jesus fucking Christmas. Nothing will penetrate his perfect shield of fantasy.

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        Hate to break it to you, we’re still near the top of the heap.

        Honestly him getting re-elected is the first time in my life where I felt the absolute gravity of “Oh, THIS is white privilege” like theres no fuckin nuance to this. I’m straight, white and middle aged. If I say the right things I’ll probably be fine, not much is going to change for me.

        I cant say the same for a lot of other people.

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    Mildly? I’m radicalized as fuck. This is the most infuriating shit. Fucken useless ass democrats are only good at constructing elaborate and expensive footguns. They couldn’t read the fucken room and hear people screaming for any change at all.

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      I’ve changed man, since then. I don’t know how I feel about the Democrats, but I’m devastated over who voted Republican. So many people in this country voted for him. It wasn’t just we had low turnout, but also just that he had so much. That’s the disheartening thing for me, that still, with everything we know, he still carries 50% of this country easily. So yeah, we had too few, but worse, he has too many.

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        Right? I found pre-election solace in knowing that even though his cult will never turn on him, he couldn’t have possibly gotten MORE supporters in the past 4 years.

        Turns out they LOVE the hate and they want more of it.

        Sorry, Mindless Americans, it’s not Trump’s fault anymore, it’s YOURS.

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          Republicans actively work for an uneducated population they can rule. That’s the root of this problem.

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          That’s what I’ve come around to. It’s not him. He’s a figurehead that we apply blame but it’s not. It’s the people - the public. They want this. They have the fear and the hate, they actively want it. If America didn’t want him, they wouldn’t have voted him in. Even with tampering/whatever, if America didn’t, he wouldn’t be there. But America does want him, and that’s a very sobering and sad thought to me. I try to live with a simple code - do what you want, as long as it doesn’t hurt others. I learned yesterday that most American’s don’t have similar values.

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            IMO that’s way off base. People want change. They know they’re getting screwed, and the grifter is promising change. He’s lying and I think most people know that, but the fact that they’d take a convicted felon over what the DNC offered up is a crushing repudiation.

            Bernie would’ve mopped the floor with Trump, because he also offers change. Someone like Obama would’ve too, even though there was a paucity of actual change during his terms.

            We need to drag the DNC kicking and screaming off of the corporate dick it’s sucking, and get it left enough to offer real change, and people will vote for it in droves.

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              Part of me blames the collective memory loss of the COVID years and a complete lack of understanding of cause and effect.

              It’s like everyone forgot there was this massive global pandemic which absolutely killed entire industries. And even though the important parts were propped up during the lean times by government support, that support ended eventually, with the economy still a mess that couldn’t just be put back together like nothing happened.

              I mean, people at that time didn’t even have a concept of what was going on. They have no idea how much money was spent keeping the lights on. People lost their shit over the billions it would cost to forgive student loans, but had no idea how many more billions were already spent on—and abused by—businesses whose pandemic loans were forgiven by the government.

              Everyone forgot the pandemic was only as bad as it was in the US because it was so completely mishandled by the Trump administration. We could have had everything back to normal a lot sooner if there was even a little bit of national preparedness, not to mention if we didn’t have all the misinformation spread by his own administration.

              So when the economy went to shit in 2021-2022 during the Biden administration, people shrugged their shoulders and put the blame on the old man in the white house, despite the fact that it’s been on a recovery trend during this last year. And so Trump’s first year is going to start with stronger markets, he’ll get the credit, and then things will get worse just in time for someone else to take the blame for it.

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                  Do you have figures that include 2024? That data seems to stop at 2021. Not saying you’re wrong but the picture being painted is just Biden’s first year as president during the height of the pandemic.

                  Comparing things like rates of inflation and the consumer price index, we see the numbers drop dramatically within the past two years, which seems to have been improving cost of living somewhat (or, ruining less quickly, at least) for the average American, though there is still a lot more to be done.

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            Apparently people see him as the strongman lesser evil who’s gonna bring back economy, “fix” illegal immigration (both of which the current administration has done), and keep status quo on energy and abortion. I blame the Democrats for not campaigning on their successes.

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              They DID campaign on their successes, but nobody believed that anything had gotten better because they still couldn’t afford groceries.

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                The food scarcity percentage (sometimes or often not being able to afford groceries) is down 1%, but yeah it might not be noticeable. I don’t think Harris’s campaign did anything substantial on the other economic stuff, though. In trying to campaign a message of change, it seems like they neglected their incumbent successes and failed at both.

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          I’ve tried talking and that doesn’t work, I’ve also tried being kind and all that shit no dice. But everyone gets upset when I say let’s shoot them, so please tell me more about how it’s my fault.

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          I’ve tried talking to trumpers to point out the double standards, contradictions, and outright lies. They don’t listen, just ad hominem or whatabout out of it.

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            So much whatabout. Are they actually convincing themselves this way, or do they realize it’s stupid but just don’t have anything else to say?

            Trump sexually assaulted people and was convicted of fraud.

            Whatabout Hillary’s emails and Hunters laptop?

            First off, those people aren’t running for president AND it’s not fucking RAPE AND FRAUD!!!

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          Last numbers I saw is that Trump more or less got the same amount of votes as 2020 while Harris got 15 million less votes than Biden.

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            Don’t forget we only have about 87% reporting right now. So far turnout seems on track to be about the same as 2020.

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      I can’t really blame the Democrats. The public is who failed. The Democrats ran a sane adult. That alone should have been enough to beat Trump.

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        Some extracts from a great comment from another user on lemmy (readfanon). I’ll paste this here seems you seen to think that the Democrats did nothing wrong, it is the “left” voters who failed them :

        1-You are chasing the DNC to the right and one day you will wake up and wonder to yourself “How did I end up all the way over here?” I’m not following you into that marsh but you’re welcome to go into it yourself, just don’t get upset at me when I point out what you’re heading into and don’t get angry when I refuse to blindly follow you.

        2-Historically, fascism has never been stopped at the ballot box. You being convinced that this is possible does not sway my opinion on any matter aside from my estimation of your political awareness and your ability to achieve change.

        3-You had four years (eight+ if you count Trump’s regime and the lead-up to it in this calculation) to “stop fascism”. What did you do in this period of time? Did you push Biden and Kamala to adopt policies which have mass support? Did you do anything except go to back to brunch?

        4-You aren’t entitled to others’ votes. Stop pretending that you are.

        5-We aren’t splitting the so-called left, Kamala Harris did that all by herself.

        6-You have no red lines. There is nothing that could make you not support Kamala Harris and we know it. Telling people to drop their standards and ignore their conscience to vote for Kamala is a fatal strategy and you killed her campaign by deploying it.

        7-Almost all of your arguments for voting for Kamala Harris (aside from the “it will stop Trump” argument which, in retrospect, appears to be a dismal failure) also apply to reasons for voting for Trump. “You can push them left”, “By voting we will get a seat at the table”, “Voting third party or not voting at all is a wasted vote”, “We have to vote this way to protect the country”, “Politics is about comprise - you cannot expect them to be your perfect political candidate”, and whatever hold-your-nose-and-vote arguments you trot out. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why it is that you do not find these arguments for voting Trump to be convincing?

        8-Last time Trump got elected you were brutally vindictive. You took glee in the thought of people in red states and marginalised groups suffering due to policy and things like natural disasters, regardless of their politics or how they chose to vote. You were excited to tell these people that they were going to get deported and put into concentration camps. You will do it again this time too because you have learned nothing. November came and these people you targeted with your vicious schadenfreude remembered. They aren’t going to forget how effortlessly you abandoned them and how you wished the worst suffering and ill-fate upon them.

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        No its not when people are in agony. To them, this is their torch. This is how fascism rises.

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          We made it through the Recession and COVID-19, but now people are in agony? No fucking way. They chose fascism because they are awful.

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            Yeah. Fascism rises further because Americans voted for it, not because of the candidate.

            More important to have a Chad than anything.

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      İt’z ƿėn v ðoz “ſitı ȯ ė hil” ſentimintſ. İt u̇pſetſ bumṙz t ægnȯlidj ðæt n ė lȯt v “ekſpırimentıŋ” hæz bin gœıŋ ȯ ſinſ ð ſivil ruıts eırė.

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      It’s one of those “City on a Hill” sentiments. It upsets boomers to acknowledge that not a lot of “experimenting” has veen going on since the civil rights era.

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        I understand everything, but not the older German “s” instead of usual English one. And that use of “u” is awful. Especially since it’s inconsistent. Why are you doing this?

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          ſ fılz moṙ fu̇n, æ u in uI z bikȯz, æt lıſt i hau Uı ſpık, aı fılz tu “opin” f hau Uı prėnaunſ muı uı ſaundz. Luık ſpelıŋ luıt æz “laıt” fılz ƿeı ƿuıdṙ i ð tceſt ðæn hau Uı ſeı it.

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          ſ feels more fun, and u in uı is because, at least in how I speak, aı feels too “open” for how I pronounce my “I” sounds. Like spelling light as “laıt” feels way wider in the chest than how I say it.

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      From what I know, its a communist idea that all governments are inventions and that we are “trying them to see if they work”.

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        I mean, what part of that is a communist idea? And of course they are all inventions that we are trying. Every country around the world is hoping their government system works best for their population. That said they are all for the most part , different.

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    Not encouraging in the context of implementing harm reduction in the short time we have left. This stupid old fuck is going to smile and nod his way into the grave while wishing us all the best.

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        Honestly I thought about it, I’m terrified by the results, but even if things have to get worse over the next 4 years before they get better, the young generation has the time to turn it around. The will to improve? That’s still unknown to me.

        I feel bad for Jimmy Carter seeing what his country has become…

        At least following MAGA logic, starting next year we can say that Trump is causing the hurricanes, droughts, tornadoes and floods. Mother nature asking nicely hasn’t seemed to get it in people’s heads.