• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    10 days ago

    Harris turnout was lower than Biden. Trump’s was just barely up, but pretty much the same as last time. That means something with Harris failed. That’s the thing that changed.

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        Everyone looking for “the” answer needs to realize it was a ton of stuff. Lack of a primary, failing to separate from Biden, campaigning with Republicans, failure to take a hard stance on genocide, ignorant/ill-informed voters, propaganga, misogyny, and racism are only some of the reasons.

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          Misogyny and racism are the roadblocks to get through, and constantly influences what the public perceives she can/can’t do. Versus trump who could “shoot someone on 5th ave”

          You’re not wrong or anything, all the stuff matters, it just hurts her more than average white male politician when the stuff she can control isn’t executed perfectly. They should have prepared for this rhetorical of biden not running and had a plan in place, it was such a scramble.

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        It certainly didn’t help, but no I’m pretty confident that isn’t the factor that changed.

        Anyway, agreeing with that creates an issue. The democrats can only control what they do. Blaming it on voters just not liking women or PoC means the only solution is to only run white men. I don’t agree with that. There’s things that went wrong that democrats can control that aren’t just that. Primarily, appealing to the working class. Yeah, democrats are better for them but their message wasn’t appealing to them while Trump’s was.

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      Harris had the slight problem of 4 years of being VP to Biden where people aren’t better off and then saying she is basically doing the same as Biden.

      And people are misogynist and racist.