Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
    485·
    5 days ago

    I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

    I sure as fuck wouldn’t. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they’re scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I’m innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide “he had a knife” and just outright kill you. You know how they say “anything you say can be used against you?” That’s because they absolutely won’t use it to help you, even if you’re not guilty of anything.

    I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD’s neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody – anybody – over this because they’re looking even more like chumps than usual.

    So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

  • Black History Month@lemmy.world
    59·
    4 days ago

    CNN and others just put the photos out without verification. No official photos have been released. CNN even said as much in their article

      • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
        26·
        4 days ago

        “Hi we’re CNN. We don’t really have reporters. We regurgitate random shit we find on social media. Liberal, conservative… Suck my dick we’re CNN and we’re always just fucking there butching reality so you stay angry and we stay relevant. Fuck you.”

      • stinky@redlemmy.comEnglish
        6·
        4 days ago

        “There was a shooting! Police are looking for the suspect! PICTURE OF A CLOWN WITH A GUN HONK HONK”

      • annHowe@lemmy.zipEnglish
        10·
        4 days ago

        That’s pretty much how most modern, corporate news outlets operate: irresponsibly.

    • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
      8·
      4 days ago

      Well that sucks.

      Also, can’t stop thinking about that episode of The Newsroom with Boston marathon bombing. 10 years since it aired and this shit is only getting worse.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    125·
    5 days ago

    Feel free to upload more pictures claiming to be him that aren’t, post them to Reddit, send them to the news claiming to be from an official source.

    Protect your folk heros America.

  • spector@lemmy.ca
    61·
    5 days ago

    The clothing color could be due to lighting. Remember the blue black dress meme? Multiple backpacks is too easy. So that’s a non-issue.

    That being said. Why isn’t anyone considering that maybe the cops couldn’t give a shit either. But they have to try because the money people said so.

      • GladiusB@lemmy.world
        8·
        5 days ago

        It’s more than incompetent. It’s that they can’t get caught. That there is a way to execute and not be held accountable. If that knowledge hits the masses it’s a public relations nightmare.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
      46·
      5 days ago

      I don’t think lighting makes a light grey backpack into black. That’s a bit of a stretch. Especially considering the jacket on the left have no chest pockets. The one on the right has massive pocket flaps like they are the main character.

    • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
      6·
      5 days ago

      That’s what I think as well. The assassin hopped on a bike and pedaled off to Central Park.

      Personally I think he had a different clothes going into the city. Changed in CP, Stole a bike, then biked to the hotel did the deed. Biked back to CP ditched the clothes and bike and left the city.

  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
    114·
    5 days ago

    Backpack & jacket type AND color are all different. The other dude even has his hood from a hoodie beneath the jacket while the first one has his hood from his jacket. Facially also completely different. I guess the NYPD has reached Reddit doxxing levels now.

    • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
      7·
      5 days ago

      The killer seems pretty competent, having multiple jackets and backpacks and switching things up to make it harder to track him doesn’t seem unreasonable.

      • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
        1·
        1 hour ago

        I thought you were joking (missing /s) but judging by the comments you mean it?

        I don’t think this sounds plausible, no. You’d try to make yourself look completely every time if that were the case.

      • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
        34·
        5 days ago

        Having two dudes wearing similar stuff also doesn’t sound unreasonable. It’s really inconclusive and could do a shit ton of harm to an innocent person if the police got this wrong.

        • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
          3·
          5 days ago

          Totally agree, just saying that clothes are easy to change if you’re a motivated and competent killer. I trust the police about as far as they can shoot my dog from.

      • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
        2·
        5 days ago

        And what proof do you have of the killer doing that? The only reason they posted the other dude is because he has a vaguely similar outfit style (backpack + hood, which is incredibly common among younger people, especially during this type of weather). If I were the killer I’d not switch into similar clothes, but something completely different.

        • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
          2·
          5 days ago

          Why so aggressive? They might not be confused. They could just as easily be deliberately lying to frame someone else since the real killer is gone and that makes them look bad.

          • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
            2·
            5 days ago

            Hanlon’s razor: never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

            That said, we’re talking cops here, who are notorious both for being malicious (ACAB) and stereotypically incompetent, often at the same time, so the usual odds (which massively favour incompetence, hence the adage) might not apply.

            Also, a lot of people feel sympathy for this particular murderer (and / or enough well justified, earned, and deserved antipathy towards the victim that it overcomes what antipathy towards murderers they might normally have), so they might be aggressive towards anyone who appears to favour him getting caught.

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
    45·
    5 days ago

    Reminder even facial-recognition softwares & Geo-Location data HAVE made errors that put innocent people in jail

  • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    4 days ago

    I keep seeing the backpack as not matching, I don’t get how these are considered the same person, unless is going to be the next blue-black white-gold thing.

    • bunchberry@lemmy.world
      9·
      4 days ago

      Yeah, the jacket is very different as well if you look at the front chest area. While people do say maybe he just changed his clothes, the problem is if he also changed his backpack, he couldn’t have just put the clothes in the backpack, meaning he would’ve had to have left them somewhere and there would’ve been a trail that probably would’ve been found by now. It doesn’t really add up for them to be the same person.

      • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        Unless he put the clothes in the backpack and put all of that into the other backpack, Backpackception! It sounds really silly though, like he purposely changed his clothes ever so slightly, just enough that a few people would call it out, instead of changing into a completely different outfit, which would’ve been more effective IMO. It’s just alot of work for little benefit, people come up with the weirdest theories.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      30·
      4 days ago

      Yeah, these are obviously different. All kinds of visible differences. Pockets, color of bag, strap sizes, no string on hood, lapel looks different, one looks more like a hoodie with a jacket, the other looks like a jacket with a hood… Just doesn’t match very well at all.

    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
      7·
      5 days ago

      That doesn’t mean it’s not the same person. It means they have more jackets and bags. If I was going to murder someone I too might bring extras so I can get changed afterwards.

      To be clear I hope they don’t catch this guy, but I’m just being real.

      • rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        I’d do two bags in two separate locations with different changes of clothes in each. whichever bag I went would depend on what the circumstances afterwards were.

        • Mongostein@lemmy.ca
          3·
          4 days ago

          No no, you just wear the getaway outfit under the hoodie and pants that are easy to take off.

    • Mango@lemmy.world
      2·
      4 days ago

      It’s the Everyday Bag by Peak Design. Probably v2. I want it so I can cosplay assassin-kun! Gotta figure out the right jacket.

    • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
      9·
      5 days ago

      I mean, typically I’d agree with you, but there’s a small chance that this is smarter than a lot of people are initially thinking (but still fucked up none the less) … maybe someone at NYPD found a video / picture of a dude that they know was not the dude. Maybe they have evidence that the guy in this picture in the green jacket is 100% innocent. Maybe they arrest him, his lawyer gets him out and they all of a sudden have no leads at all. Cold case.

  • Bwaz@lemmy.world
    24·
    5 days ago

    Wow. Dark haired male in dark hooded jacket and back pack. Rare. I see slightly less than 30 such most days.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
    16·
    4 days ago

    Yeah the shooter had something more like a rain jacket. But he may have put on the rain jacket that he wasn’t wearing earlier when going out to shoot the guy. Backpack is different, but that may have been stashed in the park.

    But what seems odd to me is that this whole thing was obviously premeditated, but a guy that’s intent on murder is smiling and chatting up the receptionist? I guess that’s possible, but something that further suggests that it’s a different dude.

    We really only have the top half of the faces looking somewhat similar in a couple of grainy images. It’s plausible it’s the same guy, but given the information we have, it’s more likely not. But we don’t have all the information, so who knows?