While Ezra was taking a nap in his crib, the family’s Husky that they owned for eight years attacked out of nowhere.
“And to just bring awareness that it could be any dog at any time. Completely unprovoked, no matter what the history is,” Chloe said.
Same thing could have happened to us, except we kept our 90 lbs GSD the fuck away from our newborn. “It could be any dog at any time” uh… no shit? Genetically it’s a fucking wolf. Use your fucking brains people.
If this sounds insensitive, well it is. A license should be required to possess both dogs and children.
Yeah I love dogs and I really miss having some, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t glad we didn’t have one when the kid was born. Not only for the safety aspect and not having to deal with making sure the dog and baby were safe, but also one less layer of having to care for another being.
I have both and agree with your statement. I had a paragraph typed up but it’s a lot to edit and it’s late. Call me lazy. The tl;dr version is supporting evidence for the dogs portion, and outlines that people need to have access to abortion, and/or screening on if they’re responsible enough to have kids. And now it’s a paragraph again. Ugh.
Is that a licence to possess either one, or both at the same time?
Yes
It may seem like no reason to us, but the dog had some reason.
It could be something as easily overlooked as suddenly diverting your attention and energy from the dog to the new child. Dog doesn’t understand, so the child becomes competition.
Huskies are smart. They certainly could understand that a new “pack member” is creating problems for them.
Huskies are also named in a list of dogs biting, harming, or even causing death. They’re down the list a ways below dogs like Pit Bulls, German Shepherds, and even chihuahuas (but those little dogs are often very poorly socialized and not trained).
Like 95% of these “studies” the results are completely useless.
Exactly like studies dealing with everything else, unless it is normalized “per 1000” etc. Comparing extremely popular dog breeds to rare ones needs to take that into account…
Kinda surprised Australian cattle dogs weren’t in the list. Mine is great with our 5mo but we wouldn’t leave him alone with her and we always pay close attention when she gets close to him. He ignores stuff she does that would cause him to warn us off.
Probably because the breed is comparatively rare. This study is useless.
Australian cattle dogs are temperamental but also a somewhat rare breed ive got two and while I trust one with my life and the other to mind her own business im still iffy about the one who would try to save me. Mainly cause hes completely neurotic love the boy though.
“And to just bring awareness that it could be any dog at any time. Completely unprovoked, no matter what the history is,” Chloe said.
Reminds me of that Onion article that pops up every time there’s a mass shooting in the US: “There’s no possible way we could have prevented this, says only country where this routinely happens”.
Dogs have co-existed with humans longer than just about any other domesticated animal. They don’t do things for no reason. If the parents didn’t see any signs, it’s because they weren’t looking hard enough.
Dogs can absolutely be dangerous. They’re often bred and trained to be dangerous. They don’t just spontaneously decide to be dangerous, especially after eight fucking years.
Even people sometimes just wake up day and snap for reasons beyond our control.
Now you’re generally right, most of these cases there’s some meaningful details missing and the “no history of attacks” is a lie.
We just can’t broadly apply that because we don’t know which one isn’t a lie.
Sometimes the thing that sets a dog off is just that they’re older and confused. Dogs do sometimes just snap with no warnings, same as humans.
Yes they do. Any dog can have a trigger you simply have not seen yet. I literally had my rescue dog bite me after 7ish years because I startled him once. Absolutely zero signs of aggression prior to that. Every dog has a line and it is impossible to know what that like is or if it has changed.
This one did.
Animals follow their instincts. If something sets them off, they are set off.
Dogs don’t attack for no reason
This one did
Because it was following it’s instincts
Mfw
Do you not understand?
I don’t. Instincts are a reason. If it was following its instincts, it didn’t attack for no reason.
So it’s more like a semantics(what words mean) thing tripping you up.
Got it.
If you stand on your head, then pyramids look like ice cream cones.
Totally.
“there was no reason, but here’s the reason” isn’t semantics. It’s just you contradicting yourself one sentence later.
Yes, semantics, I get it.
You need things strictly defined for you but aren’t willing to provide parameters or ask questions.
You built a sand castle and then knocked it down all by yourself.
Very impressive.
I think this is actually a more dangerous mindset. Any animal can be unpredictable, can do something you’ve never seen them do before. Maybe there were signs, but maybe there weren’t. Either way, it’s dangerous to wait for a “sign” before you start to set boundaries on how your pet interacts with any person.
…why the hell did the dog have unsupervised access to the baby
BuT He WaS AlWaYs a GoOd DoG!
Christ, my heart goes out to these parents. I cannot imagine the hell they’re living right now, makes me sick thinking about my own 6 week old. I’ll definitely be rethinking leaving him alone with our border collies from now on. It was so big of them to decide on organ donation; they’re basically using their loss to save other families.
Yes, as much as I love dogs, unfortunately they can be unpredictable even if we’ve had them for years. Whether it’s aggression (possibly around food or toys), prey drive, playing too rough, or just pure accident, they can cause a lot of harm to small bodies. I would not leave any dog unattended when an infant.
Yeah, dogs have a prey drive, and babies are unfortunately right in that “looks like prey” zone. Because, ya know, babies are prey. Your dog will fuck up a baby for the same reason that they’ll fuck up a squirrel or a cat.
Husky (the dog in this incident) prey drive is ridiculous too. I could imagine new parents might also be unable to give that sort of dog the stimulation it needs to be less likely to misbehave. * I am aware of how misbehaving is a massive understatement in this context. *
Some people put too much trust in animals. Even good animals can have “bad day”.
Dogs are dangerous. Every goddamn time I got bit while working delivery the onwer would say "Oh he never bites! He is a good boy!" all the way up until a client dog attack required surgery, forever changed how I walk and keeps me in constant pain 24/7.
I fucking hate dogs, but I hate even more how dog owners make excuses for their dogs that put other people in danger.
Yepp, irresponsible dog owners are the fucking worst. Not only are you potentially going to harm someone outside the situation, it is also torture for the dog.
If you aren’t going to care for your pet, DONT GET ONE.
Hope you get jacked by a dog again
Boring uninteresting troll.
I should not have read that. I need to go give someone a hug.
Well, have an internet one from me - I’m just gonna take this as the prompt to close the tab without clicking through and be done on the net for the night. Thanks, buddy.
Husky? No that can’t be right must’ve been a pitbull since those are the only dogs that are EVIL! PURE EVIL!
The internet says so!
There’s no quicker way to have people sounding like 13/50’ers but with dogs than to bring up pitbulls.
"Well that’s because pitbulls are evil and that’s why they’re chosen by those evil bla–
Hey where are you guys going? I’m just saying, German Shepherds follow orders so well, they truly are Der Überhunden!"
I only keep dogs under 30lbs and I still wouldn’t trust them near a child let alone a newborn. Jesus.
I really don’t like living with dogs to be honest. I can love and play with your dog, but I never want to live with one.
Pro: no constant barking, no chewed up stuff, no jumping and ignoring personal space, no begging, no dead babies.
Cons: dating site profiles have shown me over the years that 99.99999999999% of women are almost literally obsessed with dogs. Or at least that percentage of women who also use dating sites… :(
You’ve never lived with a dog that’s actually been trained then. I’ve had dogs my whole life and they’ve never done any of those things beyond the puppy stage. I recommend it, but it is a big responsibility, akin to parenting when done properly.
I love dogs and think they’re fantastic roommates, but I definitely get where you’re coming from. Most of the negatives of dog ownership can be fixed with proper training, but most people are too damn lazy. I often find myself annoyed by other people’s dogs as well. The only one of your listed problems I have to deal with is the personal space one (Golden retriever), and it’s as simple as saying “Go to your place” to solve/prevent it.
All that said, no dog, no matter the size or temperament, should EVER be left unattended with a small child, let alone an infant! Even with zero aggression dogs can hurt small children by smothering them or knocking them over. It’s as simple as buying baby gates to prevent it, and I just don’t understand why people let things like this happen :(
The training is really the biggest issue, I’d need to be completely in control of that. I’ve dated people in the past with the whole “oh but he’s too cute I can’t not do XYZ thing!” and their dog would drive me crazy.
Unfortunately that “oh but he’s so cute I can’t help it” crap bleeds over onto those of us responsible owners too. Golden puppies are adorable, and everyone wanted to let him jump on them when he was little. I would stop it at every turn, but it was a constant fight with him and other people trying to fix it. So what I’m saying is, screw those people. They make everyone’s life with dogs hell. -_-
Also dog owning girls are usually in better shape.
B-B-B-BUT I THOUGHT PITBULLS
Pitbulls do this much more frequently but any dog is capable of killing a 6 week old.
There’s also about 20 times the number of pities (not even including the miss identified ones) and because they can be gotten extremely cheaply. They often are raised by the lowest common denominator of owner.
People still died of other stuff even when COVID-19 was raging. Pit bulls are murder machines pretending to be an animal that doesn’t mean no other animals are dangerous
MURDER MACHINES!? 😂😂😂
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The dogs over children energy of most of the comments here makes me GOLDCOPS sick
What’s goldcops? I tried looking it up, but no dice.
