• Chozo@fedia.io
      35·
      5 months ago

      I agree, it’s super scummy. If you think somebody’s video is important enough that it should be shared and spread, then just post the original video.

      Also, a surefire way to ensure that PeerTube doesn’t succeed is by associating it as a viable freebooting platform. No content creator will want to put their material on such a platform. It hurts both the video creator and PeerTube. It also puts the Lemm.ee admins at risk for facilitating this thread, if the video creator were litigiously-minded.

        • sunaurus@lemm.ee
          2·
          5 months ago

          Hey! I’m not really sure about this at the moment. I can tell you that if the authors (or any legal entity) would contact me about this and ask for links to be removed, then I would comply, rather than try to fight it.

        • DeceptichumEnglish
          5·
          5 months ago

          I say pirate everything. I don’t like denying from society.

        • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
          2·
          5 months ago

          You just copy data, you know. They still have the thing

          Besides YouTube is google, should have picked better platform

          It’s in the name you know, COPYright. And who I am to refuse if someone would want to copy my copy

          • doodledup@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            What you’re saying is illogical. You can copy everything. Almost everything. You can copy software secrets, machine secrets, copy research and development. But where are we going to go if everyone started doing that? Anarchy? You’ll probably lose your job in such a world. I don’t know what you’re working but there is a high probability you would be affected. There is no moral ground for piracy. Piracy and theft has never produced anything good. It will only make things worse, believe me.

              • doodledup@lemmy.world
                1·
                5 months ago

                This is an idealized world you imagine. It doesn’t exist and will never exist. Most non-profits are underfunded these days. Nobody wants to pay for stuff voluntarily if they don’t need to. In a world you idealize, any capitalist asshole will always win. So why would everyone else grant them that and offer stuff for donations while they won’t? It won’t work, it has never worked.

                Besides, I doubt that companies make suffiecient money from you. You probably spend way less with your method. You’re just trying to justify it by saying you only support the good. But what you actually do is make it more expensive for me who fairly and legally obtains the media. I’m paying for your piracy.

        • doodledup@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 months ago

          When does people become company? I hear that argument a lot from people that pirate movies. But they always forget that there are thousands of people working directly or indirectly on a single movie.

          Piracy won’t change the content for the better. First, it’ll make content worse (which is already happening) and people get payed less before companies change their service. Piracy won’t help. Period.

          Find a better way to pay for movies directly and selectively, like phyiscal media. Don’t subscribe to ever worsening streaming services. Go to the cinema. That is how movies will get back to what they were in the past because that is what people did in the past.

          Same goes for every other medium. Piracy always sucks and all arguments you’re giving is just a justification.

    • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfOPM
      4·
      5 months ago

      3 reasons I uploaded the video to PeerTube:

      1. @DogPack404 had received a “cease and desist” at the time, thinking his video might be taken down.
      2. The video is not monetised.
      3. YouTube.

      I’ve changed the URL to YouTube now though.

  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
    66·
    5 months ago

    I always sort of assumed as much. For one, there is something about Mr Beast giving me bad vibes, I think he kind of gives off psychopath vibes. Maybe it’s the eyes. I’ve also heard people who have interacted with him talk about how he spends basically all his time thinking about attention economy and views and just… it doesn’t sound healthy.

    But also, yeah no shit he basically does reality TV on steroids. And reality TV has been fake ever since they first figured out it’s better TV than boring actual reality. So it tracks that his videos are also fake.

      • accideath@lemmy.world
        6·
        5 months ago

        Less the smile itself but that the eyes tell you it’s not a genuine, heartfelt smile. It just looks fake.

      • Juice@midwest.social
        5·
        5 months ago

        Honestly I feel like I see this smile a lot when you look at politicians, ceos of big or terrible companies. Its like they don’t know how to smile, at best they do the thing with the mouth but the eyes just look cold and predatory. Ron Desantis looks like he’s being involuntarily sodomized when he smiles in pictures, its like he can’t even fake it.

        Not that I think these people can’t feel joy or genuinely smile, I’m sure you could get more expression from them if you paid them to physically torture helpless poor people. But when they smile for us, its always dead in the eyes

  • Orbituary@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    5 months ago

    Anyone who thinks you can be a millionaire on YouTube without being a fucking sociopath is deluded.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    5 months ago

    Could have proved it better.

    That being said, there is something extremely off about that man. His eyes have always given me the creeps.

    • Chozo@fedia.io
      31·
      5 months ago

      His eyes have always given me the creeps.

      It’s because when he smiles, he doesn’t use his eyes. If you look at a photo of him smiling, and cover up the bottom half of his face, he always looks completely neutral. Maybe he has nerve damage and part of his face is immobile, maybe he’s just faking the smile for the camera? Questions like that what pop into my mind when I see photos of him and are, for me at least, why I feel something off with his eyes, as well.

    • thesmokingman@programming.dev
      28·
      5 months ago

      Don’t let his Reddit Secret Santa PR campaigns blind you. He’s a rich guy with a fake story pulling the ladder up behind him and using his wealth to ensure things go his way, not the best way. Do just a little bit more digging than the superficial shit I’ve shared with you here and you’ll learn he’s really just a piece of shit.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
        5·
        5 months ago

        You’d prefer if he was like the Koch brothers? Or Musk?

        He’s not a saint but he’s done a huge amount of good compared to other billionaires.

        How many other billionaires are talking about malaria in Africa?

        • thesmokingman@programming.dev
          12·
          5 months ago

          Read that fourth link and its links. Basically the Gates Foundation controls world health these days. If you don’t agree with it, you don’t move forward. Agreeing with it means you have to agree with Bill who, and this might surprise you, actually has no fucking medical training or education. His approach to lots of things really fucks shit up. It’s very debatable that the short-term impact (fighting things like malaria fairly well) is worth the long-term shitshow (see Gates attempting to lock down and profit from the ‘Rona vaccine).

          John Doerr has a hilarious anecdote in Measure What Matters that he intends to be seen as the power of rich white dudes making shit up but in reality is very telling. Bono makes some foundation for shit in Africa. Nothing works. Doesn’t do the things it wants to do. Suddenly someone has the brilliant idea to maybe include an actual African dealing with the problems they’re looking at instead of a bunch of rich people disconnected from everything. It’s presented as a revelation! The power of OKRs! In reality it’s fucking money blindness. Would I wish Gates were more like Koch or Musk? Fuck no. Why are you telling me I have to have a serial sexual harasser trying to kill things that make the world better because he can’t profit from them?

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
            2·
            5 months ago

            Read that fourth link and its links.

            Did you read it?

            “Clearly, the tens of billions of dollars the Gates Foundation has given away have helped people at times and, yes, saved lives”

            The article can be summarized as, " Why hasn’t he done more?"

            From the article:

            "Instead of celebrating the million-dollar gifts his foundation donates, why aren’t we interrogating the $184 billion that Gates isn’t giving away? "

            So, “He’s saved lives, but why hasn’t he done more?” Isn’t the big scandal you think it is.

            And yeah his COVID ip take was bad and he backed off.

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      5 months ago

      The fuck are you even talking about? Bill Gates is a piece of shit for his underhanded and anticompetitive business practices; it has fuck-all to do with Epstein.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 months ago

        Gates was underhanded and anti competitive to other underhanded anti competitive companies. It was billionaires competing against other billionaires. Gates was a saint in the business world compared to IBM that came before it or Apple that it competed against as a peer.

        If Apple has been victorious in the 80’s instead of Microsoft, it wouldn’t have been, “MS has an unfair advantage over Netscape because IE comes bundled.” It would have been, “You can’t install Netscape because we’re Apple.” Netscape would have been reduced to a reskin Safari. Because that’s exactly what Apple did with the iPhone.

        • thesmokingman@programming.dev
          7·
          5 months ago

          Embrace, extend, and extinguish wasn’t Microsoft against big corps. Someone else linked the Halloween Documents which come after this. In ‘76 Gates wrote An Open Letter to Hobbyists decrying any unpaid work and later stole everything from The Mother of all Demos (specifically its descendants at PARC) without compensation.

          I’m not sure what you’re on about in any of your threads defending Gates. Whataboutism doesn’t reduce any of his problems.

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            The letter to Hobbiests was valid. An Altair was $2500 in today’s dollars and you still needed to spend a thousand more on i/o. If it was so trivial, they could have written their own Basic. Instead they copied it because they could. I get it. I have copied software utilities/games/etc too without ever caring that a small team spent months writing and debugging. That doesn’t make it right.

            MS in 1976 was not the giant global corporation it is today. It was maybe 10 guys.

            As to MS stealing from Engelbart, this

            https://www.quora.com/Did-Bill-Gates-get-Windows-from-Xerox

            claims MS stole from Apple.

            • thesmokingman@programming.dev
              1·
              5 months ago

              I’m not coming down one way or another on stealing code from Gates. It was a drastic departure from how things worked at the time. I am saying you can’t write a letter like that and then not pay PARC.

              Both Jobs and Gates visited PARC and were aware of what Xerox was doing. Apple lost their suit against Microsoft for this because Xerox got involved. It’s so tenuous to argue it was stolen from Apple and that’s mostly based in Jobs fandom. Jobs was, surprise surprise, also a huge piece of shit and an incredibly, unapologetically deadbeat dad until his death.

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            Because capitalism is a messed up system. Warren Buffet has described our system as perverted in that he makes millions simply for owning while a teacher has to work for only thousands.

            I don’t see Gates donating millions to re-elect Trump like Musk. That alone makes him a good billionaire.

    • DeceptichumEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Oh wow downpunxxx has moved on from defending genocide to supporting billionaires.

      Anyone who lived through the 90s knows that Gates is Musk and Zuckerberg levels of shit.

  • Rookwood@lemmy.world
    12·
    5 months ago

    Yeah I had that feeling. Kinda like how everyone thought Bill Gates was a good guy before the links to Epstein.

    • Ledivin@lemmy.world
      17·
      5 months ago

      Kinda like how everyone thought Bill Gates was a good guy

      The only people that ever thought this were those who knew virtually nothing about him… he donated a lot of money to a lot of causes, but got it all through dodgy ethics and cutthroat, scummy business practices. It was pretty well-known that he had (a?) mistress(es?).

      And I use “he” lightly - his wife pushed hard for the philanthropy, and it’s not likely that he would have done so on his own.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
    11·
    5 months ago

    Isn’t he the one who’s working directly with Elon Musk now? Yeah I think the fraud stuff was implied.

  • CaptainKickass@lemmy.world
    9·
    5 months ago

    Dude could keep every cent but he doesn’t

    How many wells have you had dug for people without water, how many blind people have you paid to have their sight restored

    You guys love shitting on people

    • Chozo@fedia.io
      17·
      5 months ago

      I don’t think people are arguing that Mr Beast doesn’t do good for the world, as much as it is people arguing that the good doesn’t cancel the bad. If some generous gazillionaire decided to give every person on Earth $1000 a day for the rest of their lives, but also really loved clubbing seals, we’d probably question whether or not he’s still a good guy.

      If doing bad is what’s necessary to fund doing good, we have to ask ourselves if the ends justify the means. Does improving the lives of impoverished people justify defrauding privileged children to fund it, as opposed to hosting a charity drive? I’d say it’s a question worth discussing.

      • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
        4·
        5 months ago

        I think we can appreciate a person without this borderlineish splitting someone but… the social media is borderline. Everything is polarised to maximum.

        Even if you say something as innocent as you don’t like Star Wars sequels you will already be seen as racist most of the times on social media.

        We have became a mentally ill society with no room for nuance, only extreme polarisation. There’s no cure.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      5 months ago

      yeah he generously gives away money and gifts… To his friends, family and employees (who knows if they actually get to keep it)

      Meanwhile to the general public he gives gift certificates that require a purchase to use.

    • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
      4·
      5 months ago

      By their fruits shall you know them, right?

      No one is purely good, or purely evil. On the balance, he seems to do good things within the world, likely doing more harm than good.

  • s08nlql9@lemm.ee
    9·
    5 months ago

    unless they have permission to repost it in peertube, its not good for stealing someone’s video

  • YourPrivatHater@ani.social
    7·
    5 months ago

    Questionable Video, this guy claims to have worked with him but doesn’t show actual proof. Also yeah welcome to entertainment, many things are staged, he still does lots of good.

    • Chozo@fedia.io
      12·
      5 months ago

      A member of Mr Beast’s team confirmed that he did, in fact, work for them. Although, he apparently only worked there for a short amount of time.

      • YourPrivatHater@ani.social
        2·
        5 months ago

        Yes i know, it was in one video and not even the entire time, some other youtubers did stuff for Mrbeast and did some behind the scenes as well, i don’t say that the videos aren’t staged partially or scripted, doesn’t make the good or interesting inside the videos less valuable, its just made to be more entertaining. And idk how he can be a scam in general, he doesn’t do anything that can be scam he sells merchandise, people buy that willingly.

        I just think this video is useless or outright flame bait.

        • Chozo@fedia.io
          12·
          5 months ago

          And idk how he can be a scam in general, he doesn’t do anything that can be scam he sells merchandise, people buy that willingly.

          The video goes into some detailed allegations of actually illegal practices taking place with a lot of their contests and giveaways, such as obfuscating the “no purchase necessary” clause in their promo copies, making it unreasonably hard to enter the contest without making a purchase, “fixing” the contest so that some prizes go out to friends/family of the company instead of outside entrants, forging autographed merch, etc.

          • YourPrivatHater@ani.social
            2·
            5 months ago

            Yes but there is no real coherent Evidence, its mostly allegations. I don’t say that all of this cannot be true, i just say that it’s not really believable currently. When now a lot of participants would stand up and talk about malicious practices i would probably believe it more. The forged autographs are actually pretty common, i don’t like it either but its not new.

            • Chozo@fedia.io
              13·
              5 months ago

              He provides a lot of evidence, largely including video footage and screenshots of the exact things he’s alleging. In fact, just about every claim he makes in the video is backed up by a clip or a screenshot. Whether or not those prove the claims he’s making is one thing, but to say he’s not provided any coherent evidence wouldn’t really be accurate.

              Did you watch the video? I know it’s long and not the most entertaining thing in the world, but I’m getting the feeling that you’re running on assumptions here, because a lot of the blanks you have are filled in by the video.

        • averyminya@beehaw.org
          1·
          5 months ago

          There is another video that goes into detail about how it is illegal to sell products for entry to a random giveaway. Which he had done multiple times.

          He is absolutely scamming people and uses predatory tactics against children. Watch the SomeOrdinaryGamers video on it, it’s pretty clear. (For posterity, that video I’m mentioning is Mutahar watching and commenting about a different video to clarify and give his opinion)

  • molten@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 months ago

    Look. I believe in what I call “rational evil” where you genuinely do good things (not fake it, as it will eventually come out like most fraud) to keep the public’s good will and plan for the future. Oil will die hard because they will not adapt and change. Even for future profit. Coal giants could use all of that money to diversify and dip into renewable energy as it is obviously the future but they (mostly) don’t. What Mr. Beast is doing is fine as long as it promotes the right things and does some legitimate good. I’ll never really care for what he’s up to but I’ll support him if he’s promoting the things that are important and not acting fraudulent in the actions that make him look like a good guy. #teamtrees or whatever. Keep it up.