• 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com
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    23 hours ago

    Isn’t water itself the pretty literal definition of 0 and it doesn’t become one or the other until it’s a solution with something else?

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        22 hours ago

        Also I’m pretty sure it’s only coincidentally 7. The calculation for pH isn’t based on any property of water.

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          21 hours ago

          Well, yes and no. The pH scale follows the hydrogen ion concentration, but specifically in aqueous media. The reason 7 is in the “middle” of the scale is because the natural dissociation of water sits at equilibrium at 10^-7 M H+ at 298K, IIRC. So perturbations naturally just displace that specific equilibrium, so it absolutely is normative to water.

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            16 hours ago

            Interestingly enough, in other solvents a neutral pH is going to be a different value. IIRC, ammonia has an autoionization constant of 10^-30, so a neutral pH would be 15

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            21 hours ago

            By that definition, it can’t be exactly 7 then either. 10^-7 is just an estimate that we’ve agreed works fine. To my knowledge we haven’t really tried to improve this accuracy either?