Twenty-two States Sue to Stop Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Order
www.nytimes.com
The lawsuit to block the president’s executive order is the first salvo in what is likely to be a long-running legal fight over immigration policy.

The 14th amendment starts off:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

Which makes any attempt to make people born in the US not be citizens like this simply unconstitutional. Documentation of birth in the US is pretty much the only proof of citizenship that most Americans have, so getting rid of this puts every non-immigrant American’s citizenship in doubt.

  • Cool_Name@lemm.eeEnglish
    77·
    13 days ago

    I like to ask people who want to be tough on immigration, if you were arrested right now and accused of not being a citizen could you prove that you are?

    Address, Drivers License, SSN? Non citizens can have all of those. A passport should work if you have one, but if you don’t have it on you, you might be detained for a long time before you can get it and prove your citizenship.

    Now, under the EO even having your birth certificate won’t cut it. You’d need to prove one of your parents was a citizen. So what? We’re all going to walk around with a family tree of birth certificates?

    • someguy3@lemmy.world
      31·
      13 days ago

      Exactly this. And we all know who will have to “prove” their citizenship. It won’t be the white people, just in case someone needs to hear it.

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      26·
      13 days ago

      I have a certificate of naturalization, so it’s probably easier for me to prove my citizenship than it is for someone born in the USA (to citizen parents).

      • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world
        1·
        12 days ago

        I do too, but I don’t carry it on me. Been wanting to get a passport, but I don’t like the idea of being without it for the time the process takes. Did you know that it is the only original copy, and you cannot get another one issued?

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
      7·
      13 days ago

      Nah it’ll get changed to “if three or four grandparents are non-citizens”.

      And people still won’t see parallels.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
    16·
    13 days ago

    Trump’s argument:

    If someone is not here legally, then the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” doesn’t apply to them. Their kids aren’t citizens.

    I guess now he has to explain how he can deport people who aren’t “subject to the jurisdiction”.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        13 days ago

        I guess my objection is that a copy editor found it meaningful to specifically say there were eighteen states… they didn’t say “multiple” or something else vague.

        If the fact that there are eighteen is important than what those eighteen are is important.