The election is in three weeks, and Pennsylvania is a must-win state for both Trump and Kamala Harris, but during a rally last night in Montgomery County, northwest of Philadelphia, Trump got bored with the event, billed as a “town hall,” and just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage. Trump is no stranger to surreal moments, yet this was one of the oddest of his political career.

This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was a Democrat.

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    I hate that I’m at the stage that I can kind of see the logic in Trump’s weirdness, but I dunno, I think everyone is missing what this event was.

    People are forgetting that Trump is an incredibly small and incredibly petty man. I think this was 100% about punishing Kristi Noem for embarrassing Trump earlier. I think it’s as simple as Trump didn’t like being on stage with Noem so he decided to act like a child mostly to make her uncomfortable. Watch the event and their interactions; watch how he responses when she speaks.

    And this is Trump so ignore the fact that none of Noem’s own stupid bullshit had anything to do with Trump and ignore the fact that she’s still a sycophant whose praise he will still accept, and ignore the fact that Trump hates dogs too. None of that matters. I really think what happened in the moment is that Trump looked at Noem, remembered that he had been mad at her before, and decided to act like a child in response.

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        I don’t think this is credit. I’m not saying he masterminded this, I’m saying he saw a person he remembered he was once mad at an threw a tantrum like a child.

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        Yeah this is just what is happening when a bunch of sycophants humor an Alzheimer’s patient.

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        I remember when America believed Donald Trump was playing 4D chess. But then we all watched in horror as he was playing Chutes and Ladder.

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          We think that of all morons in positions of power, because it’s difficult to fathom how they got there otherwise. Despite all the proof to the contrary, we continue to think meritocracy is a thing. The prosperity gospel is one of the more overt expressions of that belief: if you’re rich, it’s obviously because you’re just the best, smartest little cookie and you deserve it all. What other reasons could there possibly be?

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    How can people not see that he doesn’t even want to be president? The only reason he’s doing this is to keep his sorry ass out of jail and to squeeze as much money from his base as possible. If he wins he’s going to spend at least half his term at Mara Lago playing golf. That means his fucking kids will be running things. Fuck this timeline where people would rather run around the China store breaking as much shit as possible rather than try to fix anything.

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      It doesn’t matter whether he wants it. Something near half the country is going to vote for him, and the result will be that the grifters around him hold power if he wins.

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    One of the strangest elements of this story is that the Village People and Rufus Wainwright are on the Trump campaign playlist.

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      he was probably just on shrooms/molly or something similar. the guy is a menace but seriously? knocking a person for vibing out to music because they’re sick of the campaign trail? honestly i wish he just did that all the time and left everyone else alone with his racist/facist non-sense.

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    This is a comment i made in a different thread:

    The actual event is, as usual, fascinatingly cringey.

    This is right after the second guy fainted, so trump’s already been interrupted twice, the venue’s tiny, and I think he doesn’t like dog killer Kristi Noem despite obvious commonalities. She was probably insufficiently subservient.

    He wants security to open the doors to let fresh air in, but they can’t because of USSS measures to protect his dumb ass. Watch how he loses his mind in rage, suppresses it, and rolls it into his patter in the span of one second.

    Then he says hey everybody lets all hear my favorite - Pavarotti singing Ave Maria! (Crowd cheers). The fuck? It gets weirder from there.

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    I cannot help but wonder if we are in the Matrix, and David Lynch has been given the reins for the direction of what this time-line is…all donnie needs now is to dance with the backwards talking little man and to have the tall man materialize behind him…

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    Republicans don’t want a leader. They want a vegetable. Every (normal) Republican runs on limited government, then gets into power and adds government: (Nixon and the EPA, Bush and Homeland security, etc…) Regan came to power and then didn’t do any of that, since he had alzheimers and didn’t know who he was half the time.

    That is the golden age they want to bring back.

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    This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was a Democrat. literally any other person on the planet.

    Fixed it for you.

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    I think at this point the Trump ticket is the JD Vance for President ticket. If they win, even if he doesn’t drop from a bad stroke or cardiovascular disease, the team will 25th his ass.

    It’s essentially the Vance / Johnson ticket going forward.

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      the team will 25th his ass

      That’s what they should do in that situation, but in reality, there’s no chance. The bar is too high.

      From the 25th Amendment:

      Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

      Trump would have a cabinet full of true believers and yes-men. There’s no way that more than half would be on board to jettison him. The Congressional cure is also a non-starter. If Trump were to win, there would probably also be a Republican-controlled Congress, and we all know that Congressional Republicans have zero spine when it comes to standing up to daddy.

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        Idk. Vance doesn’t strike you as just waiting for that opp? Look at how he flip flops.

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        I completely, wholeheartedly believe that the GOP could fight kicking and screaming to get Trump elected and then immediately, unanimously 25 him before the inauguration is even complete. They have zero shame. This is not even slightly outside of their ballpark.

        It’s an obvious con, but that didn’t stop them from doing the exact same thing with their supreme court justices. That was also an obvious con that would not have been allowed in any functioning government.

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    I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.

    Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?

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      Yes. You have to remember you aren’t electing Trump directly. You’re voting for his electors.

      If Trump dies before taking office, the party decides who will take his place.

      It’s most likely going to be Vance, but honestly it could be anyone.

      Assuming that there isn’t any fuckery (it’s Republicans after all), then Vance becomes President and then nominates a VP that goes through the Senate approval process.

      I can’t remember the last time this was discussed but it was a while ago.

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        I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.

        My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?

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          Fizzle bust. Vance has a fraction of the charisma and no cult of personality. As for martyrs…

          “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

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          Hard to say. When he finally dies or is just off the Republican ticket one way or another, we’ll find out how much of the Republican voting base is attached to Trump, not the GOP.

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        Well thats why i ask. You can say lucky us, but at this point in the election, im not so sure.

        Between the vitriol and retoric and conspiracy theories weve already seen, the implication of violence and absolute craziness would, without question be enough for me to not hope for anything like that.

        But im asking about how the voting public would poll. Would vance get a martyr boost from their dear dead leader, or would an immediately apathetic undecided vote rise up, one that was origionally locked into the trump/vamce ticket. Would it just vanish overnight? I doubt it, but vance remains an amazingly unpopular vp pick. Without trump, where is his ceiling?

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          Yeah, that’s a good point; my brain is never prepared for the irrational conspiracies these idiots cook up. I would think that without trump, the whole momentum behind him would just die off, but who knows what would happen if Vance then just starts saying that the democrats poisoned his Big Mac and assassinated him. I’d like to think that only the die-hard crazies would still be motivated enough to vote for Vance and the rest would just stay home.

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    I’m strongly opposed to Trump but these headlines seem like a real stretch. It seems a couple of medical emergencies in the crowd interrupted things and music was played while Trump waited on stage, then at the end he stuck around while more music was played. He looked awkward, grooving along, but this isn’t what “Trump Breaks Down Onstage” suggests.

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      Disagree, I watched it live and it was bizzare. Yes, they had a couple medical situations that the experts handled, but Trump was fumbling pre planned questions read off queue cards and answers from a teleprompter, he was an hour late starting, he kept leaning funny in his chair, he screwed up the election date, and other basic info, then when he said they would take more questions he immediately said to just play music, and he stood there swaying for 39 minutes, sometimes looking like he might wander off, and his facial expressions looked like he was on drugs, like he was trying them on in a mirror or making them to see how they felt.

      It honestly looked like they just rolled him out of the care home on a day pass. Like they might be walking him back to his ward after enjoying a good listen to his favorite old tunes.

      I’ve long said that he is just as cognitively sound or unsound this year as before, but I’ve changed my view after last night. Trump is in serious decline.

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        Is it possible to cover up “serious decline” with a serious dose of uppers? I’ve assumed he is on a steady diet of pills ever since he accused Biden of only being able to stay awake if they put him on meds.

        Maybe this is how he is when his meds wear off.

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      Did you read the article? They’re suggesting he has dementia/significantly decreased mental faculties. There were 2 medical emergencies, yes, but those were done and over with and he still chose to declare he wouldn’t be taking questions after all and made his staff put on his favorite playlist for the rest of the “townhall.” To me, that’s the sign of someone who has broken down and just straight up isn’t fit to lead anyone, let alone a country (his horrible policies aside).

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      There are layers of weirdness on it. Watch it. It is weird inside crazy wrapped up in bizarre.