No Biden, your legacy will be that your ego was so big, you let your country fall into fascism rather than relinquish power. He never should have run for 2024, and the DNC should have had an actual primary.
Nothing else he did during his term will end up mattering nearly as much as how it ended.
“Funnily” enough, he probably could have won against Trump…
How do you figure? He was looking at potentially losing Minnesota, New Hampshire and Virginia when he dropped out, and showing no signs of being able to campaign his way out of that hole. One of the Harris campaign’s “gaffes” in the late run was when he went and called Trump supporters garbage (or at least, said words that sounded like that) after the Puerto Rico thing at MSG). Maybe 2020 Biden could have pulled it out, but 2024 Biden, both in the sense of his current mental and social capabilities and in the sense of the baggage he had as the incumbent president, didn’t have a lot going for him
Maybe I’m wrong, but I was thinking more in the sense that a lot of people stayed home instead of going out to vote for Harris.
Fair, I just think jumping to the conclusion that those folks would have come out to vote for Biden is a stretch when you look at how well his campaign was going. Worth remembering that Harris way outperformed Biden in terms of approval rating, which is a very imperfect metric, but the best one we have for guessing if folks would have come out to vote for Biden but stay home for Harris. In 2020, Biden was a challenger to an incumbent who was botching Covid from both a health and economy perspective. In 2024, he was an incumbent struggling to get out of the shadow of the global post-covid recession and some very unpopular decisions in foreign policy regarding the Middle East. Assuming he would have received 2020 levels of votes is not congruent with those facts
Her entire message was “I’m Biden, for a new generation”. “I can’t think of single thing I’d do differently”, other than put a republican in her cabinet. And with as much time as she spent with her, it was probably going to be a Cheney, cause they’ve always been so popular with the American electorate…
Biden was nearly net negative 20 favorability when he dropped out, with almost two-thirds of Americans feeling the country was on the wrong track. Incumbents do not win with those numbers, especially ones who can’t put together coherent sentences after 8pm.
There were people googling “did Biden drop out” on election day. His name on the ballot might have been enough.
Because he hid in a closet for four years, so him dropping out and not campaigning any more wasn’t a noticable difference.
Seriously, he did a tiny fraction of public appearances, press conferences, anything, that any other president in the modern era.
The only times we really heard from when he was shuffling from a vehicle into a building, a building into a vehicle, or rare occurrences of one vehicle to another
That’s not an opinion, it’s quantifiable fact.
And as we’ve found out in the last week, that was because his age had been an issue for a long time, and he just couldn’t handle stuff like that.
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Whose job was it to get the message out?
This was a massive failure of the media to not even attempt to hold a president accountable for lack of presence. If anyone needed more proof the fourth estate is dead, they got it.
Chris Clizza is probably the single person we could blame it on. And while it took him too long, he did release a YouTube video the other day apologizing for doing with Biden’s age what rightwing media does with pretty much everything about Republicans…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQKveT8Bzo
It’s just he’s mostly saying it now because CNN fired him. When he was cashing their checks he didn’t “notice” that he was spreading propaganda.
Considering Harris’ campaign was basically “I’m Biden 2.0, except I’m gonna capitulate even harder to Republicans,” I really, really doubt that. Biden won the 2020 election entirely off a platform of “I’m not Donald Trump.” It was foolish and belittiling of the DNC to think they could pull the same trick four years later.
he had the lowest poll ratings of any incumbent on 80 years. Nixon had higher polls than Biden. He had zero chance of being reelected, even before he talked about beating medicare. Even against an idiot like Trump. Harris’s hole challenge was to climb out of the giant approval hole Biden had dug himself with his own stupidity.
None of their internal polling ever projected Biden or Harris to win.
Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.
People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.
Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?
inb4
You lost me the moment you thought the strikes were only about sick days. Look up the unions’ demand and you’ll see that sick days were only one of many, and Biden still gave them less of those than they demanded.
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And then when the amazon strikers were being illegally arrested by the cops the other day Biden didnt do a damned thing.
The video says (effectively) “still working behind the scenes on the remaining issues”. Just because they reach an agreement on one item doesn’t mean they ignore all the other items.
No he waited for the news cycle to move on and abandoned them
If that was the case then they wouldn’t have even gotten the sick days presented in the video. But they did.
That was two years (???) ago and he only has two weeks left in office. Unless by some miracle they can get these things during Trump’s term, it ain’t happening.
It doesn’t get any media coverage, so I have no idea what happened. But this notion that he just ordered them back to work and nothing happened is dead wrong.
and likely rescheduling
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
Hello Mr Crab! That’s why I said likely! He told whatever agency to look at it and iirc they announced plans to reschedule it.
I also see someone else has given you a whole bunch of information on it.
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
And that’s why I said likely! Are you on repeat?
Well, at least you’ve moved on for your previous position that Biden had rescheduled cannabis. Because you knew every last time you repeated it that it was a fucking lie.
Cannabis is still Schedule I, where you and Crime Bill Biden love it.
And that’s why I said likely!
For anyone wondering, months ago I said that Biden rescheduled marijuana. I said you can say that I was a little ahead of the ball on that. But Mr Crab got suuuppeeerrr mad, yelling and screaming at me for months, and still going! I think he’s at 4 months now! You’d think that lack of rescheduling raped and killed his mother or something.
where you … love it.
Ah and we have your strawman! Still can’t break that AND operator huh! For anyone wondering, Mr Crab is intent on calling people centrists.
And that’s why I said likely!
Because you expect people who know better to buy that cannabis is “likely” to be rescheduled in the next month? Come on dude.
Biden didn’t reschedule cannabis. It’s still Schedule I. Where it will remain until the end of his term. Where he always intended it to stay.
He did not, as you asserted, reschedule it. That was a lie. You didn’t “get a little bit ahead of the ball.” That ball ain’t moving and it was never going to. It was just a lie. That’s all it ever was and all it will ever be. You. Lied.
Still can’t break that AND operator huh!
I’m not sure why you think this makes any more sense than last time.
Anyway, I’m out. You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.
EDIT: They always keep trying when you say you’re leaving. Now he’s whining about downvotes and making conspiracy allegations.
I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.
He also showed no sympathy for union workers
Did he do some things? Sure.
Did he do nearly enough? No.
His end is similar to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Held on too long to power and totally fucked their legacy.
the genocide enablement also didnt help.
As a powerful American I’m sure she did that at some point.
He fucked his legacy back in the early 80s.
This is as wrong as two left shoes. Retroactive alt-history with the benefit of hindsight can solve anything, congratulations.
I’ll point out that identical “logic” can condemn Bernie Sanders for the Trump Presidency.
but it’s not retroactive. people called for rbg’s resignation at the time. a lot of the establishment pushed back, including herself. they pretended it would be bad for the court to do such things for political reasons.
democrats love to lose. they live to lose. they talk civility and pretend they’re above politics. the whole entire fucking thing is political I’m so sick of these people. politicians pretending they’re above politics is like a plumber who pretends they’re above plumbing. they’re useless.
And yet they’re so good at beating progressives in the primaries and the caucuses. They literally dump unlimited amounts of cash in defeating progressives everywhere they go. The only ones that get in are those like AOC whom nobody thought had a chance so they didn’t bother to slap her down. So they just put her in a corner in the Congress instead.
Oh word, is marijuana legalized Joe?
Of course it isn’t. But centrists will lie and say it is.
Well, yeah, kinda is; but trump did that with the 2018 farm bill.
If by kinda you mean “not” then sure
Is there something you want that you can’t get? There are a handful of states that have outlawed and some vendors won’t ship to then. I just checked Flow Gardens and they ship everywhere except Idaho.
https://flowgardens.com/papaya-punch/
He never said he would legalize marijuana. He can’t do that, wrong branch. He did say he would pursue decriminalization of it, which he did pursue Iike the other comment said about trying to get it rescheduled. As of January 2022 there were 0 people in federal prisons for charges solely based upon possession of marijuana. (He pardoned a number to get them out)
If you want it legalized, look at the legislative branch.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/ :
As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has.
He said he was going to do what he said he would do.
Not that he wouldn’t do things he said he wouldn’t do.
Don’t leave out that he’s deported more people than Trump did, and nearly outpaced Obama.
Period. Period. Period. Period.
When he said he wasn’t ever going to pardon his son, I knew that wasn’t true, and so did he. There was no reason to lie, yes it’s a political witch hunt, and the only reason they went after him is because of who he was, but he knew that.
That’s another reason why I am disappointed in Biden.
The democratic party needs all of its leadership gone, people like Pelosi are keeping the party down at the expense of the American people.
I’m actually of the opinion that he really meant what he said when he promised not to pardon his son. But then after the election I believe he was disappointed with the democratic party and the American public and realized that leaving his son in prison under Trump and a fully Republican Congress was dangerous (he’d already lost all of his other children). And decided to go against his own word. He really had nothing to lose in doing it. And I don’t think he gives a damn shit about the Democratic party anymore. I mean, I know I don’t.
Man, imagine if magats cared one inch when trump pardoned the straight up crooks Roger Stone et al. Imagine their reaction when he pardons everyone involved in the failed insurrection.
Do you think magats find us more decent and respectable when democrats “tsk tsk”?
Let Biden pardon his son, who gives a shit. It’s not like Trump is gonna go “well maybe I won’t be a dictator now” if Biden doesn’t.
He kept his word that nothing would fundamentally change.
He came in from Trump, and left with Trump.
The guy didn’t really want to change anything, did he?
Centrists have no platform other than keep everything the same and pretend to do something everyone wants. When it fails, they continue to do nothing. All the while making money with insider trading and running reelection campaigns.
Yep, Which was another way of saying nothing will fundamentally improve either. Where is that old “Mission accomplished” banner from George W’s stupid flight suit speech after desert storm. Biden can reuse that.
True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history, allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support, and an economy that’s the envy of the world, all amount to nothing huh.
God damn, what did you want?
True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history
The government throwing money at corporations and calling it progress is not fundamental change.
allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history
For 10 drugs. And legislation that only benefits old people is also not fundamental change.
and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support
The US funding a proxy war (I support Ukraine, but let’s call this what it is) is not a fundamental change.
and an economy that’s the envy of the world
You know that when you toss in shit like this, it casts doubts on the rest of your comment, right?
God damn, what did you want?
A minimum wage increase. Rescheduled cannabis. The childcare and education provisions promised and then gleefully jettisoned from BBB. Legislation to protect democracy. Legislation to protect Roe. You know, the things Biden promised when he was running. The word he just said he kept.
This is such a milquetoast retort.
You have such a misunderstanding of government if you think federal funding allocation is not fundamental change, it’s a core function of government. Funding semiconductor production to reduce dependence on Taiwan has such far reaching consequences.
Durr, unless ALL medications can be free, it’s a worthless bill!
Another complete misunderstanding of government powers, of course it had to be with bipartisan medications, do you not think the house and senate wouldn’t filibuster over broad sweeping healthcare changes?
What would you have preferred Biden do in Ukraine?
And a strong economy directly tied to the Build Back Better Act gets a “no” from you. Good one.
I could go through each of your shithouse Biden demands, but as soon as I saw a federal wage increase I knew you had no grasp on the role of federal government. Why should the minimum wage in Utah be the same as California?
You have such a misunderstanding of government if you think federal funding allocation is not fundamental change
Giving handouts to corporations is par for the course. Not a fundamental change.
Durr, unless ALL medications can be free, it’s a worthless bill!
I guess since you have proven completely incapable of debunking anything I’ve actually said, making shit up is a great alternative.
Another complete misunderstanding of government powers, of course it had to be with bipartisan medications, do you not think the house and senate wouldn’t filibuster over broad sweeping healthcare changes?
You have a poor grasp on the idea of “fundamental change.” You seem to be of the opinion that it means “pissing about at the edges and doing as little as possible.” Also, the House has no filibuster and the Senate could have eliminated the filibuster forever at any time with a simple majority vote, which is all it takes to alter Senate rules.
What would you have preferred Biden do in Ukraine?
Been more supportive than he was. But I’m not going to pretend that what he did for Ukraine is in any way a deviation from the norm. It was not a fundamental change.
And a strong economy directly tied to the Build Back Better Act gets a “no” from you. Good one.
Considering BBB didn’t pass, yeah. I don’t give credit for non-accomplishments.
I could go through each of your shithouse Biden demands
You asked, and I provided a list of broken promises. If Biden wanted to say he kept his word, he should have kept his word.
but as soon as I saw a federal wage increase I knew you had no grasp on the role of federal government.
“You don’t know how government works” is just what centrists say when they’re wrong. You’ve said some variant of it three times in this comment alone.
Why should the minimum wage in Utah be the same as California?
Well, that wasn’t the position I stated. Wages should go up because prices have gone up without a wage increase since 2009.
Now to address your strawman directly: An hour of a person’s life is not worth less in Utah. No matter how much you think that that person is worth less.
Doesn’t matter what he did if he couldn’t do the one thing we elected him to do, keep Trump out o office. Everything he did will be undone and the only legacy he’ll have is being a sad footnote between two Trump terms.
Senile old man with a giant ego can’t remember what he’s said or what he’s done. A sad state
Your legacy is going to be a combination of the worst moments of Neville Chamberlain and Paul von Hindenburg. Nothing else.
God damn.
Tell that to the railroad workers friendo
🤣🤣🤣
If only Jill Stein had gotten a few more votes!
-linkerbaan/universalMonk simp-frauds everywhere
Did you vote Stein? I didn’t.
I know right? The most important idea is to avoid a democratic vote no matter what
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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I kept my word—that when I said I was going to do something, I did it. My focus has always been on how to give ordinary people a shot. You’ve probably heard me say it before: my dad used to say, “Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It’s about your dignity. It’s about respect. It’s about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, ‘It’s going to be okay,’ and mean it.” It’s about being able to be yourself and focusing on people who need some help. The vast majority of the American people, all they want is a chance—just a chance—and they’ll do fine.
Also Joe Biden months before pardoning his son for ‘any and all crimes’ committed over more than a decade:
No one is above the law!
But there’s a hell of a lot more Biden promised and never even tried.
Hell, he said the only way he wouldn’t run in 2024 was if “the Lord almighty himself” told him to, then he dropped out
Biden may have started 2020 with a few scraps of dignity left, but it’s all gone by now and he probably doesn’t even know. Geriatric politicians like him Pelosi probably honestly think we all love them.
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Ah yeah joes legacy failing to remove the bad policies he helped write and pass into legislation for 50 years. Dead Gaza Baby, Three Strikes Your Black, Drugs are only ok if your Rich or related to me - greatest hits.
Somebody crosspost this to NotTheOnion, because…
The craziest part is some people agree with him still
still waiting for you to do something joe lol
He certainly did SOME things. Not enough, but IMO it’s too black and white to claim that he did nothing.
but IMO it’s too black and white to claim that he did nothing.
It’s crazy people will say stuff like this…
While ignoring the president saying he did everything he said he would isn’t a bigger issue.
Like, it can make sense when trump’s the president, but because Biden was in between it means for 12 years people have held random social media accounts to a higher standard than the US president…
They both tell blatant lies and seem to believe them, and it’s completely normalized
If it’s:
it’s too black and white to claim that he did nothing.
Isn’t it wrong for Biden to say he did everything?
(Obviously he’s factually wrong, I meant it’s morally wrong for him to be lying like this)
Why can’t it be both? He neither did everything, nor did he nothing.
But you’re complaining a social media account said “nothing” and not about the US president who said “everything”.
You’re holding that random account to a higher standard than you are Joe Biden…
Even the most naive interpretion of my comment would be that I hold both to the same standard.
Which I don’t, Biden is just so obviously wrong on this that it feels like a waste of time to even comment on it. But if you’re going to comment on it, don’t just be so obviously wrong in the opposite direction!
So…
The same excuse the media gives for not criticizing trump as much as Biden?
I’d be surprised to hear there’s logical consistency there. But I figured I’d ask.
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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I kept my word—that when I said I was going to do something, I did it.
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Contrary to their username. That one does not give a fuck when it comes to nuance or reality. You can explain all day long how Biden did XY or z. The fact that Biden did not do XY or Z the exact way they wanted it done. Means that Biden didn’t do anything, and that he is an evil man. You cannot change their mind.
And here you are getting downvoted for speaking the truth
He certainly did SOME things.
For Netanyahu.
King Zora did more ass-scooting than Biden did fascist prevention.
